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Return Blaque to Love w/ David "Stackin Kickz" Jefferson & Kela Jones

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In this powerful season finale, host Leigh LaRie is joined by Portland’s own powerhouse couple, David Jefferson and Kela Jones. David, the CEO of Stacking Kickz and a Season 1 alum, returns to the mics—but this time, he’s not the single entrepreneur "riding the fence." He’s back with his partner, Kela Jones, the visionary behind Say My Name In Kursive, to discuss their transformative journey toward "Return Blaque to Love."

The couple dives deep into what it means to attract what you need rather than chasing what you want. From their shared history as high school classmates to the intentional, five-hour phone conversations that built their foundation, they get real about spirituality, boundaries, and the importance of healing deep wounds before entering a partnership.

They also introduce their revolutionary seven-part series, Return Blaque to Love, designed to revive Black love in the community from the roots up. Whether discussing the myth that single moms can't raise men or explaining why men need to learn to be alone before they can be "found," this episode is a masterclass in intentional relating.

Episode Time Breakdown:
  • [00:00] Intro: Welcome to the Season 7 Finale!
  • [01:20] Catching up with David Jefferson: From Season 1's "Single Entrepreneur" to Partnership.
  • [02:47] The Prep: How David’s ideologies on dating shifted through spirituality.
  • [04:53] The Spiritual Shift: Realizing both partners must be spiritually inclined to thrive.
  • [05:57] Kela’s Journey: Eight years of intentional singleness and dating herself.
  • [06:29] Accountability in Attraction: Healing the wounds that attract the wrong partners.
  • [08:03] The High School Connection: From classmates who didn't talk to intentional partners.
  • [09:06] Chasing vs. Attracting: Why boundaries and standards are often mistaken for "incapability."
  • [11:18] The DM that Started it All: "We have things to talk about."
  • [12:24] Dallas 2021: Why the connection didn't click until the energy was right.
  • [18:22] Unwrapping the History: Why they spent weeks talking for 5 hours a night before linking up.
  • [20:17] Masculine & Feminine Dynamics: Balancing leadership with logic and the subtleness of the feminine.
  • [23:46] Love Languages: The power of being heard vs. the act of protection.
  • [25:14] Foreseeing the Path: Navigating David’s "overthinking" vs. Kela’s "protection."
  • [28:27] Black Love in the Public Eye: Showing the community that healthy Black love exists.
  • [32:05] Divine Feminine Healing: An overview of Say My Name In Kursive and InnerG Elements.
  • [34:15] Compartmentalizing Business: Supporting each other’s individual brands while building together.
  • [36:35] The Relationship Tax: David addresses why sales with women decreased after going public.
  • [39:57] Hard Boundaries: No screaming, no yelling, and never betraying your moral compass.
  • [41:01] The Processor vs. The "In the Moment" Communicator: Navigating different conflict styles.
  • [43:53] Return Blaque to Love: The origin of the 7-part series and the Black Love Ball.
  • [49:00] Repairing the Roots: Why mentoring kids requires healing the parents first.
  • [51:50] What to Expect: Plays, panels, and conflict resolution in physical form.
  • [57:39] Future Vision: Bringing Jason Wilson and April Mason to Portland.
  • [01:00:25] Self-Sabotage vs. Protecting Peace: Knowing when you are the common denominator.
  • [01:01:32] Being "On the Fence": How to protect your peace while staying open to good circumstances.
  • [01:03:02] Biggest Myths: Generalizations about provision and the "dateability" of moms.
  • [01:07:08] Advice for Love: Writing the list and never silencing your gut.
  • [01:11:16] Purpose-First Principles: Why men need space to find themselves first.
  • [01:12:43] Where to find Stacking Kickz, Say My Name In Kursive, and RBTL PDX.
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