From childhood curiosity and early passions to her son’s life-changing diagnosis, Liz shares the deeply personal journey that turned her into one of the most daring figures in longevity science — even becoming the first human to test her own gene therapy.

Together, Len and Liz dive into:

The truth about telomeres, stem cells, and the hallmarks of aging

How AAV gene therapy could rewrite the human lifespan

The clash between innovation, regulation, and Big Pharma

Why mental health, music, and creativity are essential to longevity

And what the future of aging gracefully — or not at all — might look like

By the end, you’ll be questioning what it really means to live a long life… and whether immortality is closer than we think.

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