Lee Thirkell from the Bilbao Black Cats is joined by fellow branch member Mark Beston along with debutant Martin Steffner from the German Black Cats to discuss the 0-1 win against Hull City.

Martin also shares his Sunderland story and also gives an insight into what the German Black Cats do.

Martin also tells us a bit about Thomas Tuchel and what the reaction has been like in Germany follwing his appointment as England manager.

Music: Eneko Cabanillas Hilario