Revolution Revisited

In this episode of Revolution Revisited, host Maggie Creech and historian Dr. Iris de Rode trace how the Franco-American alliance made the 1781 Siege of Yorktown possible, featuring Dr. de Rode's research on French Major General François Jean de Chastellux. After Cornwallis entrenched at Yorktown, Washington and Rochambeau weighed attacking New York or the South, but French reconnaissance and relationship-building—led by Chastellux, a key English-speaking liaison and strategist—helped shift the plan. 

The episode follows the complex coordination of Washington and Rochambeau’s 9,000-man march, deceptive tactics to mislead the British, and the decisive naval role of Admiral de Grasse, whose fleet controlled the Chesapeake after the Battle of the Capes. It highlights the brutal fighting for Redoubts 9 and 10, Cornwallis’ surrender on October 19, and the war’s continuation until the 1783 Treaty of Paris, plus Chastellux’s friendship and correspondence with Washington and the rediscovery of his long-lost archive.

• Dr. Iris de Rode, Historian, Author, & Speaker
• Dr. Iris de Rode is a historian of the French role in the American Revolution. In the family château of Major General François-Jean de Chastellux in Burgundy, she uncovered his unpublished papers. Chastellux, a French officer in Rochambeau’s army and close friend of George Washington, became the focus of her PhD (2019) and her book (2022), which received the Prix Guizot of the Académie Française in 2023. She has held more than twenty research fellowships, appears in Ken Burns’s PBS series The American Revolution, advises major museums and digital-heritage projects on both sides of the Atlantic, and is now completing a book on the French in the American Revolution.

• 00:00 Welcome to Revolution Revisited
• 00:35 Yorktown in Context
• 01:11 Meet Dr. Iris de Rode
• 01:44 Alliance Strategy Takes Shape
• 03:57 Chastellux Archive Discovery
• 07:59 Winning Trust in Newport
• 10:17 Chastellux Meets Washington
• 14:51 Choosing the Southern Campaign
• 16:40 French Fleet to Chesapeake
• 18:01 The March to Virginia
• 21:00 Deception and British Delays
• 23:25 Siege Lines at Yorktown
• 25:02 Battle of the Capes
• 29:15 Bombardment Begins
• 30:04 Storming Redoubts 9 and 10
• 33:32 Cornwallis Surrenders
• 35:56 Aftermath and Human Cost
• 36:51 Why Yorktown Mattered
• 40:03 Treaty of Paris and Legacy
• 40:43 Washington and Chastellux Farewell
• 42:42 Why Chastellux Was Forgotten
• 45:42 Closing Credits

In this episode of Revolution Revisited, host Maggie Creech and historian Robert (Bert) Dunkerley explain how Britain’s shift to a Southern Campaign in 1780 made the South, and ultimately Virginia, decisive in the final years of the Revolution.

Inside the Epsiode:

After early failures in 1776, Britain captured Savannah and Charleston, where many Virginia Continentals were taken prisoner, and fought brutal, morale-shaping actions like Waxhaw under Banastre Tarleton. Despite American disasters such as Camden, Patriot victories at Kings Mountain and Daniel Morgan’s Cowpens blunted British momentum, culminating in Guilford Courthouse, a costly British win that weakened Cornwallis. The episode follows the war’s expansion into Virginia: Jefferson’s capital move to Richmond, Benedict Arnold’s 1781 raid and destruction, attacks on Petersburg and Osborne’s Landing, raids toward Charlottesville stopped by Jack Jouett’s warning, and Cornwallis’s move to Yorktown, where Washington and Rochambeau marched south to besiege him.

Robert M (Bert) Dunkerly, author and historian

• Robert M. (Bert) Dunkerly is a historian, award-winning author, and speaker who is actively involved in historic preservation and research. He holds a degree in History from St. Vincent College and a Masters in Historic Preservation from Middle Tennessee State University. He has worked at fourteen historic sites, written over a dozen books, and numerous scholarly articles. His research includes archaeology, colonial life, military history, and historic commemoration. He is a past President of the Richmond Civil War Round Table, and serves on the Preservation Commission for the American Revolution Round Table-Richmond. He has taught courses at Central Virginia Community College, the University of Richmond, and Virginia Museum of History & Culture. Dunkerly is currently a Park Ranger at Richmond National Battlefield Park. He has visited over 500 battlefields and over 1000 historic sites worldwide. He enjoys exploring local bookstores, battlefields, and breweries, not necessarily in that order.

00:00 Welcome to the Series

00:42 Why the South Mattered

03:17 British Strategy Shift

05:40 Georgia and Charleston Fall

07:34 Waxhaws and Tarleton

11:42 Camden to Cowpens Turnaround

13:44 Guilford Courthouse Clash

16:20 Virginia Giant Legend

18:34 War of Attrition Explained

20:45 Arnold Raids Richmond

25:18 Petersburg and Statewide Raids

29:15 Yorktown Trap Set

30:47 Closing and Next Episode

• Southern Campaigns of the American Revolution – The Journal of the Southern Campaigns of the American Revolution
• The Virginia Continental Line, by John Settle
• The Revolution in Virginia, by John Selby

Revolution Revisited™ is produced by the Virginia Museum of History & Culture. This podcast is made possible by the generous support of William & Karen Fralin.

© 2026 Virginia Museum of History & Culture.

In this episode of Revolution Revisited, host Maggie Creech is joined by Amanda Ohlke of the International Spy Museum to explore how espionage shaped the American Revolution, from Congress’s Committee of Secret Correspondence and foreign intelligence to George Washington’s expanding networks, paid informants, and use of deception. 

The episode traces early efforts like Knowlton’s Rangers and the failed mission of Nathan Hale, then highlights the Culper Ring’s civilian spycraft—aliases, codebooks, dead drops, and disinformation—and its role in reporting British plans and helping expose Benedict Arnold through the capture of John André. It also examines period techniques such as dictionary codes, sympathetic stains (invisible ink), masked letters, and mail interception, and includes the story of James Fayette, an enslaved Virginian spy whose intelligence aided Yorktown and whose freedom is documented through petitions, Lafayette’s endorsement, and a pension record.

Amanda Ohlke, the International Spy Museum (SPY), Director of Adult Programs

• Amanda Ohlke is Director of Adult Education at the International Spy Museum. As a key member of the Spy Museum creative team since 2004, she has worked on a wide variety of exhibitions and programs on topics ranging from unexpected spies to sabotage to current national security issues, and she is the content liaison for the Museum’s international travel opportunities. Ohlke was on the team that developed the groundbreaking immersive experience Operation Spy, and she was the creative lead on the Museum’s “Spy in the City” GPS-based game. Her article inspired by an exhibition she curated, “Mata Hari: Ripe for Recruitment” is included in Secrets on Display from the University Press of Kansas. Her writing has been featured in Museum magazine, H-Diplo and other history and museum-oriented publications. She is currently writing a children’s book on spying. Ohlke has appeared on shows such as “Mysteries at the Museum,” The Secret History of the Civil War” and on podcasts including Galaxy Brains, Artastra, and SpyCast. She was formerly the Executive Director of the Museum Trustee Association and has worked for the National Building Museum, Nat Geo, and the Maryland Center for Arts and Culture.

International Spy Museum (SPY)

• The International Spy Museum (SPY) is an independent nonprofit institution dedicated to illuminating the tradecraft, history, and contemporary relevance of espionage. Since its founding in 2002 in Washington, DC, the Museum has served as the only public institution in the United States solely focused on intelligence and espionage. In 2019, SPY relocated to an expanded, purpose-built facility at L’Enfant Plaza, enabling deeper public engagement through immersive exhibitions and continued innovative educational programming. SPY houses the largest collection of international espionage artifacts on public display as well as 10,000 additional objects in our “vault.”

• 00:00 Welcome to Revolution Revisited
• 00:36 Spies of the Revolution
• 01:57 Congress Goes Secret
• 03:30 Washington Builds Intelligence
• 04:50 Knowlton’s Rangers and Hale
• 06:30 Birth of the Culper Ring
• 09:30 Culper Codes and Aliases
• 12:04 Culper Wins and Arnold
• 13:33 Tradecraft and Gadgets
• 15:34 Codes and Cipher Books
• 18:31 Invisible Ink and Masks
• 22:19 Dead Drops and Disinformation
• 26:35 Intelligence for Yorktown
• 27:03 James Fayette Spy Story
• 29:13 How We Know the Spies
• 33:04 Deep Cover After the War
• 34:58 Why People Spy
• 36:16 Wrap Up and Next Episode

Revolution Revisited™ is produced by the Virginia Museum of History & Culture. This podcast is made possible by the generous support of William & Karen Fralin. © 2026 Virginia Museum of History & Culture.

In this episode of Revolution Revisited, host Maggie Creech and historian Eric Sterner shift the Revolution’s focus beyond the Northeast to the contested western frontier—western Virginia and Pennsylvania into the Ohio Valley and Illinois—where competing land claims, shifting Indigenous diplomacy, and British posts fueled violence. They trace George Rogers Clark’s rise from Virginia surveyor and Dunmore’s War veteran to Kentucky leader, his political ties to figures like Patrick Henry and Thomas Jefferson, and his recruitment of volunteers amid hints of land rewards. 

With roughly 150 men, Clark launched the 1778 Illinois campaign, seizing Kaskaskia, Cahokia, and Vincennes largely through surprise and intimidation, then later recapturing Vincennes by bluffing Henry Hamilton into surrender. The episode also highlights brutal episodes, Jefferson’s directives toward Native nations, mixed Indigenous responses, Clark’s limited success securing Kentucky, his later bankruptcy and decline, and the shifting myths and reassessments of his legacy, including his statue’s removal in 2021. 

Eric Sterner, Author & Historian

• Eric Sterner earned a BA from American University and two MAs from George Washington University. He worked in the defense and aerospace field, serving on the staff of two Congressional committees and in the Department of Defense and as a NASA Associate Deputy Administrator. He is the author of Till the Extinction of This Rebellion, Anatomy of a Massacre: The Destruction of Gnaddenhutten, 1782 and The Battle of Upper Sandusky, 1782. He contributes regularly to the Journal of the American Revolution and Emerging Revolutionary War Era.

• 00:00 Welcome
• 00:39 Why the Western Front
• 01:56 Defining the Revolutionary West
• 02:40 Treaties and Frontier Tensions
• 05:32 Neutrality and Dunmore’s War
• 07:13 Meet George Rogers Clark
• 09:52 Kentucky Politics and Gunpowder
• 13:02 Taking the Offensive Plan
• 15:20 Pitch to Patrick Henry
• 17:13 Recruiting and Corn Island
• 18:17 Why Men Volunteered
• 23:30 Bloodless Takeover of Illinois
• 26:56 Hamilton Strikes Back
• 28:29 Winter March to Vincennes
• 29:59 War’s Wider Impact
• 31:02 Violence and Native Relations
• 35:15 Did Clark Secure the West
• 37:23 Clark’s Postwar Downfall
• 40:01 Mythmaking and Reassessment
• 42:39 Closing and Next Episode

Revolution Revisited™ is produced by the Virginia Museum of History & Culture. This podcast is made possible by the generous support of William & Karen Fralin. © 2026 Virginia Museum of History & Culture.

In this episode of Revolution Revisited, host Maggie Creech and guest Sam Florer of the Virginia Museum of History & Culture examine why American independence was unlikely without European assistance and how France, Spain, and the Dutch Republic became Revolutionary Allies. The episode highlights the self-interested motives that led rival empires to support the Patriot cause and widen the conflict into a global war.

 After Britain’s dominance following the Seven Years’ War, France and Spain sought to weaken Britain, despite colonists’ long history of conflict with those powers. In this episode, we will follow the efforts an unlikely cast of characters–diplomats, politicians, merchants, spies, money-launderers, and gunrunners–who found ways to covertly (and ultimately officially) support the cause of American Independence. As France, Spain, and the Dutch Republic were drawn into the war against England, covert assistance turned into official alliances, providing critical aid in the form of finances, supplies, and manpower.

Sam Florer, Director of Public Programs, Virginia Museum of History & Culture

• Sam Florer brings over a decade of museum experience with a focus on education and public engagement. He holds both a BA and MA in History from the College of William & Mary. In his role at the VMHC, Sam leads teacher professional development workshops, supports student programs, and collaborates with cultural institutions statewide to implement the Virginia affiliate of National History Day, a nationwide historical research competition. He also manages a wide range of public programs for adult audiences and works as a historical researcher and writer, specializing in 18th- and 19th-century American history.

• 00:00 Welcome to Revolution Revisited
• 01:08 Why Europe Got Involved
• 03:15 Not Natural Allies
• 05:16 Diplomats in Paris
• 07:24 Franklin vs Lee
• 09:17 Beaumarchais Secret Aid
• 13:46 Spies and Covert Shipping
• 15:38 France Makes It Official
• 17:39 Spain Joins the War
• 25:11 Galvez and Pensacola
• 28:09 Havana Silver for Yorktown
• 31:41 Dutch Money and Neutrality
• 36:58 A Truly Global War
• 39:02 Peace Deals and Aftermath
• 41:16 Unsung Backers Left Behind
• 43:32 Closing Thoughts and Next Time

Revolution Revisited™ is produced by the Virginia Museum of History & Culture. This podcast is made possible by the generous support of William & Karen Fralin. © 2026 Virginia Museum of History & Culture.

In this episode of Revolution Revisited, host Maggie Creech is joined by Eric Schnitzer to look at the Northern Campaigns of 1777, when the Revolution was still far from secure. They talk about the low point Washington’s army had reached after the defeats of 1776, the temporary lift that came from Trenton and Princeton, and the British plan to divide the colonies by moving against Philadelphia and Albany. The conversation also follows Daniel Morgan’s Corps of Riflemen to Saratoga, where a hard-fought American victory helped force Burgoyne’s surrender and changed what seemed possible for the war.

After the Declaration of Independence, the Revolution still had to survive on the battlefield. In this episode, we follow the Northern Campaigns of 1777, when British forces hoped to divide the colonies and bring the rebellion to an end. We’ll look at Washington’s battered army after the defeats of 1776, the renewed hope that came from Trenton and Princeton, and the danger created when Fort Ticonderoga was abandoned without a fight. We’ll also follow Daniel Morgan’s Corps of Riflemen to Saratoga, where their skill, speed, and persistence helped weaken Burgoyne’s army and set the stage for one of the most important American victories of the war.

Eric Schniter, Park Ranger & Military Historian

• Eric Schnitzer has worked at Saratoga National Historical Park since 1997, becoming Park Ranger / Military Historian in 2000. He is the author of Don Troiani's Campaign to Saratoga - 1777, as well as many articles ranging in subjects from correcting the longstanding error of British light 3-pounder identification (Grasshoppers and Butterflies Reconsidered) to German recruits serving in the British Army during the American War for Independence. An artist, Eric's drawings have appeared in books authored by Don Hagist, including Noble Volunteers: the British Soldiers who fought the American Revolution, and Dr. Karen Cook Bell's Running from Bondage: Enslaved Women and their Remarkable Fight for Freedom in Revolutionary America. He and his wife, Jenna, and their four wacky cats live in an 18th-century house in the White Creek Historic District near Bennington Battlefield State Historic Site, N.Y.

• 00:00 Welcome to Revolution Revisited and The Northern Campaigns of 1777
• 01:31 Recapping 1776 After the Declaration of Independence
• 02:58 Crushing Defeats and Washington’s Army on the Brink
• 03:52 Why New York Became a Major British Target
• 05:10 Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, and Collapsing Morale
• 07:12 Trenton, Princeton, and a Needed Morale Boost
• 08:39 Rebuilding the Continental Army for 1777
• 10:32 British Strategy: Philadelphia, Albany, and Dividing the Colonies
• 12:25 Howe Changes Course and Sails for the Chesapeake
• 13:51 Burgoyne Advances from Canada Toward Albany
• 15:06 The Abandonment of Fort Ticonderoga
• 16:00 Shortages, Suffering, and Life After the Retreat
• 17:07 Schuyler Falls Back Toward Saratoga
• 18:57 Horatio Gates Takes Command
• 19:43 Daniel Morgan and the Corps of Riflemen
• 22:00 Why Morgan’s Riflemen Were an Elite Fighting Force
• 23:12 Morgan’s Men Join Gates and Benedict Arnold at Bemis Heights
• 24:04 Freeman’s Farm and the First Battle of Saratoga
• 27:00 The Second Battle of Saratoga Begins
• 28:51 The Attack on Breymann’s Fortified Camp
• 30:36 Arnold Is Wounded and the British Position Falls
• 31:22 Burgoyne Retreats and Surrenders at Saratoga
• 32:46 Why Morgan’s Riflemen Mattered So Much
• 33:43 Washington’s Losses at Brandywine and Germantown
• 34:27 Why Germantown Still Impressed the French
• 35:59 Contrasting Morale in the Northern Army and Washington’s Camp
• 38:58 Valley Forge and the Winter of Want
• 39:55 The French Alliance and the War’s Next Phase
• 40:24 Why Independence Still Had to Be Defended
• 42:23 Closing thoughts

Revolution Revisited™ is produced by the Virginia Museum of History & Culture. This podcast is made possible by the generous support of William & Karen Fralin. © 2026 Virginia Museum of History & Culture

Welcome to Revolution Revisited™, your crash course in the American Revolution. Join us as we dive into the stories of Virginia's rebels, rule breakers, and rabble rousers.

While July 4, 1776, is a key date--and perhaps the most recognized in our history--it is not the end of the Revolutionary period. Season Three of Revolution Revisited™ follows the war across the colonies, tracing the role of Virginia and Virginians as the struggle for independence continues. Across six episodes, hear from historians Eric Schnitzer, Sam Florer, Eric Sterner, Amanda Ohlke, and Bert Dunkerly.

As fighting unfolds across the northern colonies, the western frontier, and the South, the resolve of the Continental forces is tested time and again. This season, historians explore the campaigns that transformed the Continental Army and examine how intelligence networks and international alliances helped turn the tide of the war. As the conflict intensifies, the story moves to Yorktown, where the Revolution's decisive chapter begins and the path to American independence comes into focus.

Subscribe on your preferred podcast platform and join us for a captivating journey through the American Revolution. Revolution Revisited: Liberty in Action coming July 2026.  

The colonies had maritime experience—they had sailed with the British Navy, they had operated on privateering vessels—but they didn’t have a navy of their own. And that’s the challenge as the Revolution begins. On land, you can turn militias into an army, but there’s no equivalent at sea. If they’re going to stand up to the British, they have to build a naval presence from the ground up. 

In this bonus episode of Revolution Revisited, host Maggie Creech and guest Dr. Kylie Hulbert explore the origins and challenges of the Continental Navy during the American Revolution. They discuss how a collection of colonies with maritime experience but no unified naval force attempted to build a navy from scratch, the competition with privateers for sailors, and the critical role that naval power, especially from international allies, played in securing American independence.

Inside the Episode:

At the start of the American Revolution, the colonies faced a massive problem at sea. They had the sailors and the experience, but they lacked a unified naval force capable of challenging the British Royal Navy. In this episode, we follow the 1775 push to create the Continental Navy, a movement led in part by John Adams. We’ll look at the immediate hurdles they faced including limited funding, scarce resources, and a desperate competition for talent with privateers. We’ll also explore the people on the decks, from green recruits to the skilled African American pilots whose knowledge of local waterways proved essential.

TIMESTAMPS:

• 00:00 Welcome to Revolution Revisited and Forming the Continental Navy
• 00:47 Guest Introduction: Historian Dr. Kylie Hulbert
• 01:16 The Colonial Maritime World and British Naval Dominance
• 03:43 Why the Colonies Had No Navy at the Start of the Revolution
• 04:30 John Adams Pushes for a Continental Navy
• 05:40 Debate in Congress: Navy as a Step Toward Independence
• 07:15 Building a Navy from Scratch: Ships, Money, and Manpower
• 09:20 Early Steps Toward Formation in Late 1775
• 10:30 State Navies and the Struggle for Unity
• 12:30 Pirates vs. Privateers vs. Naval Sailors Explained
• 15:40 Privateering vs. Navy Service: Risk, Reward, and Recruitment Challenges
• 18:25 Who Served: Crews, Skills, and Life at Sea
• 21:00 African American Sailors and Their Contributions
• 25:34 Stories of Individual Sailors and Service
• 28:30 John Paul Jones and Criticism of Privateers
• 30:00 Early Naval Engagements and Missed Opportunities
• 32:03 The French Navy and the Turning Point at Sea
• 34:53 The Global Nature of the American Revolution
• 36:30 Why Britain Ultimately Lost the War
• 38:24 The End of the Continental Navy
• 40:08 Closing Thoughts and Episode Wrap-Up

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What I think has really changed since the Bicentennial is that issues of race and gender have become much more at the center of the academic story. And one of the paradoxes is that by and large among academics, there's a greater sense of agreement as the landscape has become broader, whereas in the public culture, things are much more polarized.

In this bonus episode of Revolution Revisited, listeners will hear a keynote panel discussion from the 2025 Conrad M. Hall Symposium for Virginia History, featuring scholars Dr. Alan Taylor, Dr. Karin Wulf, and Dr. Sarah McCartney. Together they explore how our understanding of the American Revolution has evolved since the 1976 Bicentennial, and what the 250th anniversary means for how we tell the fuller story of who shaped and was shaped by the founding of this nation.

Inside the Episode:

As the United States approaches its 250th anniversary, historians are grappling with a profound question: how do we tell the full story of a revolution that involved everyone, but whose history has long centered only a few? In this keynote panel discussion from the 2025 Conrad M. Hall Symposium for Virginia History, three leading scholars reflect on how the field has transformed since the 1976 Bicentennial and what that means for this pivotal commemorative moment. From digitized primary sources bringing new voices to light, to the challenge of translating scholarship into public exhibitions, the conversation is as much about how we do history as what history we tell. What emerges is not a single, tidy narrative of liberty, but a richer and more honest one rooted in Virginia, shaped by slavery, and still very much being written.

TIMESTAMPS:

• 00:00 Welcome to Revolution Revisited and Bonus Episode
• 01:25 Introducing the Keynote Panel and Scholars
• 05:37 How Our Understanding of the Revolution Has Changed Since 1976
• 09:11 Academic History Then and Now: Race, Gender, and Expanding the Story
• 13:17 Primary Sources, Digitization, and the Give Me Liberty Essays
• 16:05 Family, Religion, and the Overlooked Threads of Revolutionary Life
• 20:09 Scholars and Public History: Are We Doing Enough?
• 27:12 What We Hope the 250th Anniversary Leaves Behind
• 33:11 The Promise and Limits of Digital Research
• 38:39 Q&A: AI, Archives, and the Future of Historical Research
• 42:20 Broadening the Story Without Losing the Underlying One
• 47:34 Fascinating Characters from the Revolutionary Era
• 52:52 What It's Like to Advise an Exhibition
• 56:38 A Teacher's Question: Are We Losing a Shared Story?
• 1:03:29 Looking Ahead to 2026 and the Official Narrative
• 1:09:22 Commemoration vs. Celebration and Final Reflections

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In this bonus episode of Revolution Revisited, host Maggie and guest Michael Plumb explore the perilous decision that George Washington made in December 1776 to cross the Delaware River in order to hold off the British Army – and more importantly, secure an important morale victory for his troops. 

Inside the Episode:

By December 1776, the American Revolution was hanging by a thread. The Continental Army was underpaid, underfed, and freezing, retreating in the face of repeated defeats while Congress fled Philadelphia and enlistments ticked toward expiration. In this episode, we follow Washington and his army through that darkest hour — from anxious letters and crumbling morale to the risky, ice-choked crossing of the Delaware and the surprise victory at Trenton. Along the way, we unpack the realities behind the legend: the Hessian soldiers, the logistics, the overlooked figures who made the crossing possible, and the morale boost that gave the revolution new life. What emerges is not a tidy myth, but a story of fragile hope, collective effort, and a revolution that very nearly failed — until it didn’t.

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• Washington Crossing the Delaware
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