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In this episode of Revolutionary Leadership, Dr. Kerry Mitchell Brown is joined by Leilani M. Brown (Founder and CEO of "Giant Steps", LLC) for a grounded, strategic conversation about how Black women leaders can advance without getting trapped in the "savior and scapegoat" dynamic and without compromising their full humanity.
Building on Episode 1, Dr. Kerry connects the glass ceiling and glass cliff to real advancement pathways, especially when Black women are recruited into crisis leadership roles and expected to "fix everything" with limited authority, resources, or support.
Leilani shares a powerful metaphor for authenticity and self-preservation, describing the ways we can literally and figuratively damage ourselves to fit into systems for "a possibility." From there, the conversation turns practical: how to ask better questions before saying yes, how to spot red flags early, and how to use a 90-day advantage to set expectations, hold up the mirror, prioritize what's solvable first, and build collective buy-in instead of becoming the lone warrior.
Dr. Kerry also introduces friend-raising vs. networking, naming why real relationships, trust, and proximity often create the sponsorship and opportunity that transactional networking cannot.
You'll Discover
How the glass ceiling and glass cliff show up in Black women's advancement pathways.
What to ask before accepting a new role or client so you don't inherit impossible expectations.
Leilani's "Giant Steps" approach to diagnose challenges, prioritize, and build a shared roadmap.
Why friend-raising (real relationship building) matters for sponsorship, wellbeing, and long-term success.
Yuyang Mei, Primary Care Physician and Anti-Racism Champion at Asian Health Services (Oakland, CA), shares how partnering with KMB Consultancy supported their organization's anti-racism journey. He explains how Dr. Kerry's organizational assessment and culturally sensitive approach helped clarify unspoken roadblocks, surface meaningful trends through focus groups and interviews, and translate anti-racist values into specific, actionable practices across departments. Her key reminder: strong culture change work requires flexibility, openness, and the right partner to help leaders name what's been hard to define.
Where to Find Leilani M. BrownGiant Steps LLC: giantstepsllc.com
Free resource: Your Next Giant Reset: A Career Comeback Guide
Download (as shared in the episode): https://resetguide.giantstepsllc.com/#page=1
Podcast: Giant Steps with Leilani Brown
Social / Professional: LinkedIn
About the Host:
This podcast is hosted by Dr. Kerry Mitchell Brown, founder and CEO of kmb Consultancy and cultural architect specializing in revolutionary leadership and organizational transformation. Drawing on her entrepreneurial experience and a career spanning nonprofits, academia, and Fortune 100 companies, Dr. Kerry equips leaders across industries to navigate systems not designed for them, amplify their strategic power, and create environments where equity and innovation flourish. Connect with her here.
Join the Conversation:
Have you been inspired by this episode? Dr. Kerry invites you to:
Leave an honest review sharing how this episode impacted you
Share this podcast with a revolutionary leader in your life - we all know someone who needs to hear they're building tomorrow's blueprints
Let's Connect:
🌐: RevolutionaryLead.com
Social Media: @RevolutionaryLead
Credits:
Intro and outro music: "Feeling Free" by Jesse Lawrence (Epidemic Sound)
A Crackers In Soup production
In this powerful episode of Revolutionary Leadership, Dr. Kerry Mitchell Brown challenges one of the most persistent and damaging dynamics Black women face across work, family, community, and spiritual spaces: the expectation to be either the savior or the scapegoat.
Drawing from over 20 years of experience working with Fortune 500 companies, government agencies, nonprofits, and grassroots organizations, Dr. Kerry names the emotional and structural cost of leadership models that demand exhaustion, self-sacrifice, and individual heroics. She invites listeners into a liberating alternative: leadership rooted in collective capacity, radical authenticity, and sustainable impact.
Through personal reflection, organizational case studies, and lived examples from her work at SEIU's Racial Justice Center, Dr. Kerry reveals how rejecting limiting archetypes creates space for joy, shared leadership, and measurable transformation.
This conversation is both a reckoning and a roadmap for leaders who are ready to stop carrying everything alone and start leading in ways that honor their full humanity.
You'll Discover:
The hidden cost of being positioned as the "fix-everything" leader
How savior and scapegoat archetypes show up across professional and personal life
Why traditional leadership models fail Black women and what must replace them
How collective leadership reduces burnout while increasing impact
Three revolutionary principles for building sustainable, human-centered leadership
Practical strategies for resetting expectations in new leadership roles
Why honoring identity, culture, and joy is a leadership advantage, not a liability
How building leadership capacity in others creates long-term systems change
Blueprint in Action:
Dr. Kerry shares four strategic steps leaders can use immediately to shift from individual burden to collective transformation:
Reset expectations from "you fix everything" to "we transform together"
Engage collaborative assessment to surface collective wisdom
Establish clear, sustainable boundaries
Cultivate shared leadership models that build capacity beyond yourself
Listeners are invited to reflect on where they may be carrying savior or scapegoat roles and to imagine what leadership could look like if it fully honored who they are.
Featured Voice:
Adureh Onyekwere, Senior Program Associate at the Vera Institute of Justice, shares how Dr. Kerry's leadership frameworks supported Black women prosecutors through identity-affirming strategy, collective wisdom, and sustainable leadership practices—transforming emotional labor into long-term organizational strength.
About the Host:
This podcast is hosted by Dr. Kerry Mitchell Brown, founder and CEO of kmb Consultancy and cultural architect specializing in revolutionary leadership and organizational transformation. Drawing on her entrepreneurial experience and a career spanning nonprofits, academia, and Fortune 100 companies, Dr. Kerry equips leaders across industries to navigate systems not designed for them, amplify their strategic power, and create environments where equity and innovation flourish. Connect with her here.
Join the Conversation:
Have you been inspired by this episode? Dr. Kerry invites you to:
Leave an honest review sharing how this episode impacted you
Share this podcast with a revolutionary leader in your life - we all know someone who needs to hear they're building tomorrow's blueprints
Let's Connect:
🌐: RevolutionaryLead.com
Social Media: @RevolutionaryLead
Credits:
Intro and outro music: "Feeling Free" by Jesse Lawrence (Epidemic Sound)
A Crackers In Soup production
Where Black Women's Stories Become Tomorrow's Blueprints.
Most leadership podcasts hand you inspiration. This one hands you infrastructure.
Welcome to the trailer for Revolutionary Leadership, a bi-weekly podcast hosted by Dr. Kerry Mitchell Brown, CEO of kmb Consultancy and author of Revolutionary Leadership: A Power Playbook for Black Women (Entrepreneur Books, August 2026).
In this trailer, Dr. Kerry sets the table for Season 1. Sixteen episodes. Sixteen Black women architecting change inside Fortune 500 companies, federal agencies, universities, and the creator economy. Each conversation surfaces a usable framework. Not a quote to post. A model you can run.
Season 1 guests include Leilani M. Brown, Lesley Batson, Monique Russell, Stephanie Medina, Dr. Kerriann Peart, Portia Allen-Kyle, and Cerece Rennie Murphy.
If you lead Black women, lead alongside them, or sit in the seat yourself, this is the show built for the work you are already doing.
What to Do Next
Subscribe and follow Revolutionary Leadership on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, Castbox, or YouTube. Share this trailer with a Black woman leader, or someone who works alongside one. New episodes drop every other Thursday starting January 1, 2026.
About the Host
Dr. Kerry Mitchell Brown is CEO of kmb Consultancy. Her work on leadership development, organizational transformation, and equity strategy spans Fortune 100 companies, federal agencies, universities, and nonprofits. She partners with leaders to build power, transform culture, and design systems that work for the people who have always been doing the work.
Connect with her here.
Join the Conversation:
Have you been inspired by this episode? Dr. Kerry invites you to:
Leave an honest review sharing how this episode impacted you
Share this podcast with a revolutionary leader in your life - we all know someone who needs to hear they're building tomorrow's blueprints
Let's Connect:
🌐: RevolutionaryLead.com
Social Media: @RevolutionaryLead
Credits:
Intro and outro music: "Feeling Free" by Jesse Lawrence (Epidemic Sound)
A Crackers In Soup production
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