At the tiny table, Paul Kolker, Nick Bezner, and Jeff Schiefelbein welcome Nico Cabrera - a Colombian‑American Catholic whose path runs from teaching high school students, to leading worship on massive international stages, to building partnerships inside a fast‑paced cybersecurity startup.

This episode mixes humor (Zara cologne, “fat lips,” and the quest for a decent USA chant), culture (Spanish nicknames, rich family traditions, and Latin musical energy), and faith (music that exalts God, business that genuinely adds value, and choosing joy in each circumstance). Nico recalls playing right after the Pope at World Youth Day for 200,000+ people, reflects on being “rich and wild” in Spanish culture, and shares how Viktor Frankl’s insight - our freedom to choose a response - guides his work and prayer. The Dudes also attempt a color‑coded parody of I Will Survive…

Highlights & Takeaways

• From Colombia to the U.S.: early years, deep family bonds, and how American experiences shaped his worldview.

• Faith, family, and country: the three loves Nico says define his life.

• Music with a mission: forming EPIC the Band and leading Spanish worship at the National Eucharistic Congress (~50,000).

• World Youth Day story: playing on the main stage immediately after the Pope for 200,000–250,000 people in Panama.

• Business as service: a redeemed Catholic vision

• Choosing joy daily: channeling Viktor Frankl. We can’t always choose circumstances but can choose our response.

• Cultural laughter: affectionate Spanish nicknames, and why the USA chant needs work.

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