In this episode, Jeffrey talks to Rock Lambros, founder and CEO of RockCyber. Along with coaching CISOs and serving as a vCISO, Rock is also a published thought leader, co-authoring the book, “The CISO Evolution: Business Knowledge for Cybersecurity Executives.” Rock and Jeffrey talk about “little fish in a big pond” movies, the evolving landscape of cybersecurity for SMBs, transitioning from management to leadership in cybersecurity and the need for effective communication and collaboration between cybersecurity and operational teams.