How can we control cyber risks? And how do cyber risks stack up, against the other challenges facing business?

Cyber threats have risen steadily over the last few years, and the move to digital business has created its own security challenges.

But at the same time, conventional risks have not gone away. Only recently we've seen wildfires and floods. And we are still feeling the after effects of the global pandemic.

How does an organisation balance physical threats and cyber risks, against the need to become more efficient and to grow? And how do we measure the risks we have to accept? Our guests this week are Pauline Losson, director of cyber operations, and Todd Carroll, CISO, at CybelAngel.

Interview by Stephen Pritchard