Rob McGowan is a rongoā (traditional Māori medicine) practitioner. He runs workshops and travels the country, passing on his knowledge of rongoā - acquired over many years. He remembers fondly being taught how to cut flax by Whanganui kuia Rua Henare in the 1970s - at the time, he was a 20-year-old Catholic priest. From his home in Tauranga, he shares his story with Jerome Cvitanovich.