Rob Songer is back on to talk about mentoring young Bricklayers and the right and wrong ways to go about it. Rob talks about some notable apprentices and students that he's taught over the years, Talks about why he quit teaching at college and the issues with the way some of courses are delivered. Rob talks about examples of bad mentorship and lack of trust from more experienced bricklayers in learners. 

Harley Walker joins Ash to talk about his experiences learning from Rob, what Rob has taught him on and off the tools - why he's thankful to have had someone like Rob teach him the trade and what he's up to now.