Robert Mads Anderson is one of the most accomplished mountaineers of his generation and has balanced those pursuits with a multi-decade run working at advertising agencies around the world. He joins the podcast to discuss the characteristics that climbers have in common, what he learned from experiencing tragedy early in his career, what it's like to stand on the summits of the highest peaks in the world, and why climbing Mount Everest is not the same as it used to be. Robert and Jordan talk about how he has carved out professional balance between his dual professions of advertising and climbing, and what the similarities are between leading expeditions and managing people. During their discussion, they reference a video of Robert leading clients up Mount Kilimanjaro last summer. That video can be found here: https://youtu.be/PhCEOy-jX6k.