Brian and Murdock make a case for Terri Nunn - lead singer of Berlin - as forgotten feminist icon while examining the story behind the movie soundtrack single that made the band huge - and broke the band up.

SHOW NOTES:

https://vinyldistractions.com/berlin-pleasure-victim/

https://www.thatericalper.com/2019/01/05/terri-nunn-who-would-later-become-lead-singer-of-new-wave-group-berlin-auditioning-for-princess-leia-in-star-wars-with-harrison-ford-in-1976/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KROQ_Weenie_Roast

https://www.tampabay.com/terri-nunns-journey-to-berlin-almost-got-sidetracked-in-dallas/2322182/

Child actor system dissertation: https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2453&context=utk_chanhonoproj

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Heartbeat

Hollywood Heartbeat 1979 performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APPhaCUZj-0

https://www.lostturntable.com/2016/03/21/10-years-of-being-lost-berlins-information/

Virginia and the Slims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDBaUgA0NzA

Beast of Beast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC4M5e6xAzs

https://themusepatrol.com/2014/02/09/80s-bands-time-forgot-spotlight-beast-of-beast/

Berlin at US Festival 1983: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAo-q-4kW7E

Motels demo of Take My Breath Away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8qRTSkbgg

https://www.yahoo.com/now/berlins-terri-nunn-on-how-she-got-her-ex-to-play-an-ahole-on-new-song-202751710.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Words

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Moroder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Whitlock

Berlin’s cover of Marilyn Manson’s Dope Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mesTjE4fKA

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The guys get into two separate stories from the 70's chronicling rock n roll showmanship colliding with wild year-end countdowns.

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https://www.mic.com/articles/163481/how-did-new-year-s-eve-start-the-history-and-

tradition-explained

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bruce-springsteen-firecracker-show/

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2021/07/new-book-chronicles-bruce-

springsteens-relationship-with-ohio-through-40-years-of-iconic-photos.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agora,_Cleveland_1978

https://case.edu/ech/articles/a/agoraagora-ballroom

https://www.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/erry-2018/08/66bf705e4b2862/40-facts-

about-bruce-springste.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Appel

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bruce-springsteen-mike-appel-settle-lawsuit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richfield_Coliseum

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2021/02/how-bruce-springsteen-made-

northeast-ohio-his-second-home-on-the-1978-darkness-tour.html

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_crazy_night_iggy_pop_blue_oeyster_cult_ki

ss_shared_the_same_stage_on_ne

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/gene-simmons-hair-on-fire/

Video of Gene’s hair catching fire: https://youtu.be/8fYRizoWhUg

https://fullinbloom.com/kisss-gene-simmons-on-the-time-he-melted-a-fans-face-on-new-

years-eve-in-1973-the-thing-exploded-in-front-of-the-guy-2022-interview/

Rocky IV and Tyson Punch out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sknAucYijn8

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Brian and Murdock relive the horrors of Christmas seasons past - particularly the ones where they had to play Christmas songs on the radio - and get at why one particular tune always got under the skin. 

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/610472/do-they-know-its-christmas-band-aid-song-

history

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1220362/george-michael-news-band-

aid-paul-weller-savage-bust-up-do-they-know-its-christmas-spt

https://www.whychristmas.com/cultures/ethiopia.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midge_Ure

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-of-hear-n-aid-the-heavy-metal-band-aid

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4012573.stm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_They_Know_It%27s_Christmas%3F

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The guys get a stack of letters, each asking for clarification on a similar point - are these classic tunes REALLY "Christmas songs"?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same_Old_Lang_Syne

https://www.pjstar.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/12/14/dan-fogelberg-same-old-lang-syne/6494479002/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REO_Speedwagon

https://fle-pics.blogspot.com/2013/01/dan-fogelberg-in-jackson-ms-1974.html

Fogelberg in Jackson, Mississippi recording - https://youtu.be/JTAEvRx-omk?si=g2DHG2LPViJHIygZ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Honeyman-Scott

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pretenders-2000-miles/

https://www.jonkutner.com/2000-miles-pretenders/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_to_Crawl

https://www.thisisdig.com/feature/2000-miles-pretenders-song-story/

JM talks about adoption

Will Blythe on Joni & James Christmas in NC

Washington Post How River Became a Christmas Classic

Excellent Resource on Blue from NYT

JM on NPR about Bah Humbug

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Brian breaks down a couple of seemingly tall tales about the poet-turned-troubadour and uncovers another bad business manager cautionary ode.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_Leonard_Cohen

Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr Leonard Cohen documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GvTeMdmdCI

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/highlights/1218412-judy-collins-ray-darcy

https://savingcountrymusic.com/leonard-cohen-could-have-been-a-country-star-rip/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Collins

https://www.bigissue.com/culture/music/judy-collins-i-didnt-write-songs-until-after-i-met-leonard-cohen/

https://scalar.usc.edu/works/musictoronto/earliest-recording-of-leonard-cohens-suzanne---the-stormy-clovers-1966

https://ex-press.ca/2016/11/15/leonard-cohen-reminiscence/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Johnston

https://cavehollywood.com/leonard-cohen-songs-from-a-room/

https://www.billboard.com/music/features/leonard-cohen-embezzlement-career-comeback-7580545/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/apr/19/leonard-cohen-former-manager-jailed

https://sharpmagazine.com/2018/11/06/how-do-we-come-to-terms-with-leonard-cohens-legacy-in-the-metoo-era/

https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/772-mccabe-mrs-miller-profound-pessimism-and-leonard-c/

https://www.kelleylynchfactcheck.com/

https://www.kelleylynchfactcheck.com/pleadings/Compl%20agst%20Lynch%20Westin.pdf

2006 Fresh Air interview:

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/21/498810429/leonard-cohen-on-poetry-music-and-why-he-left-the-zen-monastery

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/radionational/archived/rhythmdivine/5076662

https://www.dailybulletin.com/2016/11/26/leonard-cohen-mt-baldy-monk-claremont-consumer/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyozan_Joshu_Sasaki

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/robbery-leonard-cohen-music/

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/leonard-cohen-hipgnosis-1235196842/

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The guys get an earful and an education on the Tulsa Sound and sketch comedy when a listener asks about Leon Russell's drummer.

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https://kendrasteinereditions.wordpress.com/2021/02/08/gary-busey-discusses-leon-russell/

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-13-craziest-things-gary-busey-has-ever-done/carly-kiel

https://www.nytimes.com/1978/07/23/archives/folksiness-is-gary-buseys-film-career-the-one-who-taught-me-poetic.html

https://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/113660

https://www.remindmagazine.com/article/21166/gary-busey-life-after-death-1988-accident-howie-mandel-podcast

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-12-05-me-711-story.html

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/01/Buseys-anti-helmet-stance-unchanged-despite-crash/5243604731600/

https://www.tumblr.com/uncle-gary-busey/190159738563/gary-busey-and-teddy-jack-eddy

https://okma.fandom.com/wiki/Carp

https://www.mazeppa.com/

https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=BU022

https://tulsatvmemories.com/mazeppa.html

https://tulsatvmemories.com/chew.html

https://tulsatvmemories.com/mazmurg.html

Tulsa World article (1992): https://www.mazeppa.com/about-mazeppa

https://thislandpress.com/2011/01/23/mazeppa-the-uncanny-film-festival-and-camp-meeting/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Halsey

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/entertainment/columns/brandy-mcdonnell/2016/11/13/master-of-space-and-time-leon-russell-dies/60638176007/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_sound

https://thechurchstudio.com/leon-russell-going-back-to-tulsa-one-more-time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_O%27_the_Wisp_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Buddy_Holly_Story

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/petty-warren-zanes/1122597923

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A listener letter leads Brian and Murdock to another sliding doors speculation – if a certain tragedy hadn’t happened to Bjork in 1996, would the world of music sound very different today?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_L%C3%B3pez_(stalker)

https://emadion.it/en/suicides/ricardo-lopez-storia-uno-stalker/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3du0GpXE5WY

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=444358093173398

https://thomasr.nvg.org/bjork/mainpage/rc.html

https://www.icelandtours.is/blog/bjork-iceland/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sugarcubes

https://www.npr.org/2010/08/06/129029063/bjork-a-celestial-voice

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/bjork-stalker-acid-letterbomb-ricardo-lopez/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/08/northern-souls-the-anarcho-punks-who-made-iceland-a-pop-powerhouse

https://thevogue.com/artists/bjork/#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm_(record_label)

https://smekkleysa.net/about/history/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bjork/comments/udmxc6/opinion_the_sugarcubes_are_a_bunch_of_pretty_good/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life%27s_Too_Good#:~:text=Despite%20never%20having%20intended%20to,release%20two%20further%20studio%20albums.

Betsey Johnson fashion show footage: https://www.reddit.com/r/bjork/comments/1c2ip81/you_wont_see_anything_more_iconic_today/

https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=132422&page=1

https://thecrimemag.com/ricardo-lopez-tapes/

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1996/09/19/a-race-against-insanity/

https://themoderngirls.co/2017/06/21/frontwoman-spotlight-bjork-and-the-sugarcubes/

Unpredictable podcast episode: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/unpred-ictable/episodes/The-Bjrk-Stalker-Tapes–explained-e270o2b

Spread the Dread podcast episode: https://music.amazon.com/es-us/podcasts/aa625bb4-74b6-4015-8649-97b88eb8a4d9/episodes/e12c5a9e-4910-48eb-bbc5-83a48bac6ea3/spread-the-dread-podcast-episode-10—ricardo-lopez—the-bjork-stalker 

I Could Murder A Podcast episode 

https://shows.acast.com/icmap/episodes/the-bjork-stalker-the-ricardo-lopez-video-diaries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldie

https://forums.lostmediawiki.com/thread/5618/ricardo-lopezs-803-page-diary

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/interviews/wanted-bad-wasnt-cut-goldie-crime-class-return-music/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Loves_Sunshine

https://www.thefader.com/2017/11/08/goldie-david-bowie-truth-all-things-remembered-extract

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homogenic

Spin cover story 1997: https://www.spin.com/2017/09/bjork-homogenic-cover-story/

https://www.loudandquiet.com/short/bjork-homogenic-at-20-template-for-artistic-reinvention/

https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/music/2022/09/homogenic-brought-bjork-into-focus

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A question from a listener unlocks the “sliding doors” history that exists between members of Van Halen and the accomplished musicians who would join forces to form Mr. Big.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Be_with_You

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/its_like_getting_a_phd_in_showbiz_101_billy_sheehan_recalls_what_david_lee_roth_was_like_to_work_with.html

https://defendersofthefaithmetal.com/billy-sheehan-talas-david-lee-roth-mr-big-the-winery-dogs-interview/

https://www.vhnd.com/2024/03/24/billy-sheehan-on-roths-initial-guitarist-choice-before-vai/

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/billy_sheehan_speaks_on_why_he_left_david_lee_roth_talks_how_steve_vai_behaved_when_he_joined_the_band.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper_(album)

https://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/66629-Billy-Sheehan-on-How-David-Lee-Roth-Treated-Musicians-He-Hired/page2

https://www.vhnd.com/2009/06/30/billy-sheehan-talk-david-lee-roth-and-van-halen/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Big_(American_band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Martin_(musician)

https://www.al.com/life/2021/12/how-having-a-number-one-hit-changed-this-rock-singers-life-forever.html

https://www.vhnd.com/2021/09/16/mr-big-singer-eric-martin-on-the-85-van-halen-audition-that-never-happened/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gilbert

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/paul_gilbert_recalls_ozzy_audition_rejection_when_he_was_15_years_old__how_it_affected_him.html

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/paul_gilbert_explains_what_made_him_play_guitar_with_electric_drill_talks_what_he_rarely_does_on_instrument_anymore.html

https://www.quora.com/Who-was-the-first-guitarist-to-play-with-a-drill-was-it-Eddie-Van-Halen-or-Paul-Gilbert

Lips from Anvil (2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-WSiIY2zM

https://blog.evhgear.com/2015/08/ask-eddie-using-a-drill-on-poundcake/

Mr Big live performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46BCpSJKIjw

Up close drill footage from Poundcake performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kImCAqulEKA

https://www.eonmusic.co.uk/anvil-steve-lips-kudlow-eonmusic-interview-october-2016.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBow

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Recent chatter on the show about lead singer egos spurs a listener letter encouraging the guys to get lost in the complicated and complex story of the band LIVE – four childhood best friends who let fame, fortune, and a business man with questionable motives almost destroy them.

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/live-alt-rock-band-crime-lawsuits-1234677011/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Kowalczyk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Jewelry

https://www.generationriff.com/post/30-years-of-live-s-mental-jewelry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Harrison

Public Affection profile: https://mediafiveent.com/archive/viewprofile.php?id=174

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kurfirst

Public Affection at CBGB in 1990: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oX9RWRemOI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_Records

https://popdose.com/whats-that-supposed-to-mean-live-lakinis-juice/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ed-kowalczyk-opens-up-about-his-ugly-split-with-live-198129/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/live-band-second-drummer-drama-1234686802/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hynes

https://www.pennlive.com/crime/2023/08/former-ceo-of-central-pa-company-embezzled-stole-millions-for-personal-gain-police.html

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6965

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7012&st=0&p=145244&

The podcast from Jan 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMUfrXKuqzk

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The boys burrow into the radio rock scene of the early-2000’s to examine three cases of bands in-fighting with former front men: Three Days Grace, Saliva, and Hinder. 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Days_Grace

https://www.resetera.com/threads/adam-gontier-teases-return-to-band-three-days-grace-up-confirmed.998784/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Threedaysgrace/comments/hxj7s4/three_days_grace_what_the_hell_happened/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Threedaysgrace/comments/ulfa46/can_someone_breakdown_the_entire_lore_of_adam/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saliva_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josey_Scott

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_(Chad_Kroeger_song)

https://metalinjection.net/news/breakups/salivas-reunion-with-josie-scott-over-before-it-started-it-aint-gonna-happen

https://blabbermouth.net/news/it-s-official-guitarist-chris-dabaldo-quits-saliva

Rhythm Section Podcast #51: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehn2aD2FrlQ

Rhythm Section Podcast #52: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ltWNvUdBI

Battleline podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNKgAKMmv6E

Explanation of name battle from Josey’s side: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=677041681036538

https://blabbermouth.net/news/josey-scott-hopes-to-eventually-be-able-to-perform-under-saliva-name-again

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/saliva-guitarist-wayne-swinny-dead-obit-1234702210/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/josey-scott-is-fine-with-saliva-carrying-on-without-any-original-members-they-will-do-the-honorable-thing

https://blabbermouth.net/news/ex-saliva-singer-josey-scott-explains-why-he-had-initially-avoided-meeting-bands-current-frontman-bobby-amaru https://www.oklahoman.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/08/29/oklahoma-rock-band-hinder-sues-former-lead-singer-austin-john-winkler/60578936007/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinder

https://blabbermouth.net/news/ex-hinder-frontman-austin-john-winkler-went-through-seven-rehabs-and-eight-sober-livings-before-achieving-sobriety

https://metalanarchy.com/2017/08/30/hinder-sue-former-singer-austin-winkler/

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