Rock N Roll Story Guys

Brian and Murdock talk New Romantic period rock n roll - and the punk rock sociopath who exploited, looted and stole an entire band from a guy who said he never wanted to be part of it in the first place.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabella_Lwin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_Wow_Wow

https://www.almanacnews.com/ae/2025/05/16/who-wants-candy-catching-up-with-bow-wow-wows-annabella-lwin/

https://www.side-line.com/british-new-wave-band-bow-wow-wow-back-on-uk-tour-with-original-singer-annabella-lwin/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Want_Candy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strangeloves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_McLaren

https://medium.com/loopandreplay/burundi-beat-the-ants-annabella-and-appropriation-258a804a2176

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/adam-ant-vs-malcolm-mclaren-the-betrayal-that-launched-the-new-romantic-80s/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_the_Ants

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Ant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(1978_film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Pirroni

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/18fcxuo/til_the_first_cassette_single_was_a_minialbum_c30/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Cassette_Pet

https://web.archive.org/web/20180618203234/https://vmagazine.com/article/annabella-lwin-and-the-history-of-bow-wow-wow/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiefs_of_Relief#Studio_album

Pop Carnival performance (1982): https://youtu.be/5WxNdRdOKYM?si=usbrLvo7AlMyRfZw

Chiefs of Relief TV performance: https://youtu.be/YrwvKgn50jo?si=gyPKvJoAzfG85OKY

“About Her” from Kill Bill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUs0O81n9-A&list=RDHUs0O81n9-A&start_radio=1

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Murdock gets to go full guitar geek when the guys open a listener letter asking for clarity on why some of the best instruments look the worst.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.fender.com/articles/instruments/15-stratocaster-players-for-the-ages

https://mixdownmag.com.au/features/13-most-iconic-gibson-les-paul-players-of-all-time/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Fender

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kekuku

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickenbacker

https://www.facebook.com/musicastitis/videos/-he-played-the-most-beaten-up-broken-down-guitar-in-the-history-of-rock-and-roll/1793489478737710/

SRV Live From Tokyo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k45pUfezE8E 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_(music_technology)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Stratocaster

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/14/jimi-hendrix-linda-keith

https://www.npr.org/2010/09/15/129855398/send-my-love-to-linda-an-untold-jimi-hendrix-story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Keith

https://www.fuzzfacedtube.com/watch?v=IOSvyx8cwus&t=10s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrocellulose#Coatings

https://www.fuzzfaced.net/linda-keith-hendrix-stratocaster.html

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zWMBFyEBAco

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Ray_Vaughan_Stratocaster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Ray_Vaughan's_musical_instruments

https://rorygallagher.com/1961-stratocaster/

https://www.fender.com/products/limited-edition-masterbuilt-john-frusciante-stratocaster

https://strat-talk.com/threads/vintage-primers-undercoats.87713/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic

https://iconicaxes.blogspot.com/2012/11/jimi-hendrixs-woodstock-fender.html

https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/electric-guitars/rory-gallaghers-guitars-excerpt-sunburst-strat

Primer on nitrocellulose: https://www.you

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Brian and Murdock respond to a pointed question about their lack of coverage of a certain British power pop influence and unpack the story behind the big sound, bad manager, and public breakdown that would come to define them.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTC

https://www.davegott.com/music/artist/xtc/index.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Partridge

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/oct/20/my-dream-had-died-xtcs-andy-partridge-on-mental-illness-battling-the-music-industry-and-losing-his-muse

1989 Spin Article: https://books.google.com/books?id=h-bxxO5B-xsC&pg=PA92#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://chalkhills.org/articles/Onion19970619.html

https://www.popmatters.com/the-man-who-sailed-around-his-soul-2495729988.html?rebelltpage=2#rebelltitem2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Reid_(talent_manager)

Paris, 1982 stage walk-off: https://youtu.be/SSeB_2tz5NQ?si=O8gOx7XCPdpFWPTN

https://xtcbackporch.freeforums.net/thread/49/last-xtc-diego-april-1982

https://www.songsommelier.com/xtc

https://www.popmatters.com/xtc-coat-2496118960.html

https://www.facebook.com/jeffknet/photos/released-on-this-day-in-1992-nonsuch-is-the-tenth-studio-album-by-xtc-and-consid/411992064074102/

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/xtc-nonsuch/

https://web.archive.org/web/20180103072511/https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/too-much-of-a-god-thing/Content?oid=902571

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonsuch_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panayiotou_v_Sony_Music_Entertainment_(UK)_Ltd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Moulding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Partridge

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Brian and Murdock answer a listener letter that points them toward the alcohol-soaked section of music history, examining stories of rock stars and the drugs, drink, (and music) they forgot they did...

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https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/54h7zp/til_that_in_1984_steven_tyler_heard_an_old/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/aerosmith-classic-steven-tyler-didnt-remember-recording/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosmith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_White_Duke

https://musicdatablog.com.ar/en/timeline/david-bowie-history-timeline-1964-1979/

Cracked Actor doc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnIBBkgkO5o

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Fell_to_Earth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Station_to_Station

https://www.spinmagazine.com/2017/06/musicians-who-forgot-making-their-own-music/

https://fleetwoodmac-uk.com/wp/fleetwood-macs-mick-fleetwood-says-cocaine-use-left-him-with-two-year-memory-gap-nme/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Cooper

https://people.com/alice-cooper-audience-once-killed-chicken-during-concert-8667451

https://www.loudersound.com/music/my-job-was-to-get-rid-of-alice-cooper-and-i-did-exactly-the-opposite-bob-ezrin-on-his-long-strange-trip-with-alice-cooper

https://www.loudersound.com/features/how-alice-cooper-went-cold-turkey-and-made-his-most-personal-album

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hollywood_Vampires

Alice and Keith photo: https://x.com/historyrock_/status/2105960993444794536?lang=en&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://consequence.net/2026/09/alice-cooper-crack-almost-killed-him/

https://www.loudersound.com/bands-artists/alice-cooper-comes-clean-about-drink-drugs-and-the-bad-old-days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Forces_(Alice_Cooper_album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipper_Catches_Skin

Zipper Catches Skin TV ad: https://www.reddit.com/r/ObscureMedia/comments/dzba12/tv_commercial_for_alice_coopers_zipper_catches/

https://americansongwriter.com/on-this-day-in-1983-this-famous-shock-rocker-beat-his-addiction-completed-rehab-and-set-out-to-help-others-do-the-same/

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Brian and Murdock dig through the history of David Coverdale and the multiple eras of the solo effort he started that ended up being called... Whitesnake.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitesnake

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenore_di_grazia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Jam

https://americansongwriter.com/behind-the-band-name-is-whitesnake-a-phallic-reference-or-not/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Coverdale

https://rockcelebrities.net/david-coverdales-emotional-decision-that-cost-him-over-a-million-dollars/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slide_It_In

1997 Micky Moody interview: http://www.whitesnake.f9.co.uk/Moody.html

Loudersound piece: https://www.loudersound.com/features/whitesnake-the-coverdale-i-recall-was-a-vain-preposterous-oaf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kalodner

https://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,46094,46104

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/david-coverdale-interview-2017/

https://www.rockcandymag.com/blog/post/rcm-news-release-1-issue-2-rock-candy-mag-out-nowjune-7-2017-issue-2-newly-launched-uk-based-rock-candy-magazine-features-exclusive-hard-hitting-no-holds-barred-candid-interview-guitarist-john-sykes-who-clarifies-all-set

https://blabbermouth.net/news/david-coverdale-rules-out-collaborating-with-john-sykes-again-it-would-never-work

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Brian and Murdock peer into the world of publishing through the lens of one of the great songwriters and great catalogs - and unravel the truth regarding the savvy artist who later bought those songs for himself.

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https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/beatles-catalog-paul-mccartney-brief-history-ownership-7662519/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_music_publishing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_James

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Songs

https://www.beatlesstory.com/blog/2021/12/20/dick-james-becoming-the-beatles/

The Statute of Anne deep dive: https://www.historyofinformation.com/detail.php?entryid=3389#

https://www.culturesonar.com/three-men-who-helped-bring-us-the-beatles/

Beatles music ownership timeline: https://producerhive.com/ask-the-hive/who-owns-the-beatles-music-the-entire-timeline

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Records

Promo video of the Apple/Dick James meeting: https://amoralto.tumblr.com/post/111321506407/june-1968-apple-wigmore-street-london-in-a 

Details of the Dick James sale: https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/1969/03/dick-james-sells-his-northern-songs-shares-to-atv/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Grade

https://americansongwriter.com/the-story-behind-michael-jackson-buying-the-beatles-catalog-and-angering-friend-paul-mccartney/

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/how-michael-jackson-bought-the-beatles-catalogue-then-turned-it-into-a-billion-music-empire/

https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/1969/04/the-beatles-and-atv-fight-for-northern-songs/

https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/1969/09/atv-gains-majority-stake-in-northern-songs/

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/how-michael-jackson-bought-the-beatles-catalogue-and-turned-it-into-a-billion-dollar-music-empire/

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/michael-jackson-takes-control-of-the-beatles-publishing-rights

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/25/entertainment/music-artists-selling-catalog/index.html

Running list of artists who have sold their publishing: https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/heres-a-running-list-of-artists-who-have-sold-some-or-all-of-their-song-catalogues-to-a-new-breed-of-company/

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Brian and Murdock take on the task of deciphering what was (or maybe wasn't) being said when some teenagers in the Pacific Northwest tried to record a jukebox song on a budget.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0671501283?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louie_Louie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingsmen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Berry_(musician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ely

https://archiveswest.orbiscascade.org/ark:80444/xv96038

History of dance marathons: https://www.historylink.org/file/5534

American Bandstand footage: https://www.facebook.com/50s60smusicpage/videos/the-kingsmen-louie-louie-1963/1269326935187392/

Photo of the recording studio: https://www.facebook.com/groups/296569815544787/posts/916149043586858/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnie_Ginsburg

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/articles/features/the-kingsmens-louie-louie-and-the-fight-against-censorship-by-the-fbi-185054

https://www.amazon.com/Louie-Mythology-Including-Persecution-Anywhere-ebook/dp/B07PH913C4/ref=sr_1_1

The FBI report: https://vault.fbi.gov/louie-louie-the-song/Louie%20Louie%20%28The%20Song%29%20Part%2001%20%28Final%29/view 

https://www.ratherrarerecords.com/louie-louie/

Disney controversy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT0FnVc20CY&t=117s

https://www.chicagotribune.com/1986/08/14/the-kingsmen-put-louie-together-again/

“El Loco Cha Cha”- https://open.spotify.com/track/65PcnOjjqAg5UfcKFXb7Um?si=e77e3dda123e497f

https://popdose.com/soul-serenade-richard-berry-the-pharaohs-louie-louie/

California Coolers commercial: https://youtu.be/_KJo91qs26w?si=7twXZ4Lh9KwJDIla

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Brian and Murdock work to unravel the mystery of what actually happened to the guy who got dismissed from Bon Jovi after a decade-long run (and if he ever actually PLAYED with the band at all...)

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SHOWNOTES:

https://www.bonjoviclubitalia.com/date-tour/1983-1985-7800-fahrenheit-tour/

https://backstage.bonjovi.com/exhibits/slippery-when-wet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_(Bon_Jovi_song)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Jovi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Bon_Jovi

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/alec-john-such-dead-1235081804/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starland_Ballroom

https://backstage.bonjovi.com/exhibits/the-origin-story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bryan

https://www.facebook.com/80to90/posts/onthisday-bon-jovi-was-officially-formed-on-march-14-1983-in-sayreville-new-jers/1337244561756482/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_Sambora

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_John_Such

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_HyfgoxaUY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_McDonald_(bassist)

Clip from Paul Stanley’s book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4G6uCHGbxo 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shawnsetaro/2016/10/26/business-bon-jovi-bryan-reesman/

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/exclusive-bon-jovi-the-story-book-excerpt-chronicles-bands-shaky-start-200026275.html

https://unsolved.com/gallery/katherine-korzilius/

Lewis Howes interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRi2l1waqwI

https://decider.com/2024/04/26/bon-jovi-doc-7-most-shocking-revelations/

https://youtu.be/hp7KB1SS300?si=8kWmEMQua3f-yO51

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bromberg

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bon-jovi-secret-weapon/

https://www.basslinepublishing.com/video-course/bon-jovi-livin-on-a-prayer/

https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/bassists/hugh-mcdonald-bon-jovi-livin-on-a-prayer

https://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,1196703,1196738

https://www.reddit.com/r/BonJovi/comments/1k9wefr/two_questions_about_huge_mcdonald/

Nuthin But a Good Time book: https://www.amazon.com/N%C3%B6thin-but-Good-Time-Uncensored/dp/B089YDP2T7/ref=sr_1_1

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Brian and Murdock chase down the backstory of Anne Decatur Danielewski, the artist once named among the top five "Women Who Rock Our World" who seemingly dissappeared with no explanation after two hit albums.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_(singer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RJ.%27sLatest_Arrival

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merger_of_AOL_and_Time_Warner

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlanWake/comments/18gc7vx/the_story_is_inspired_by_poes_legal_issues/

https://old.reddit.com/r/AlanWake/comments/1cqyvt3/aw2_soundtrack_to_be_released_on_major_music/l3zexn5/?screen_view_count=1&cache-bust=1787626037404

The court docs: https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/TAC/2003-41%20Annie%20Danielewski%20v%20Agon%20investment%20&%20Robert%20Edsel.pdf

https://www.uscannenbergmedia.com/2024/12/13/poe-and-sam-lake-return-from-the-dark-place/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leaves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Wake

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Brian and Murdock dig into the rumor that Styx broke up because of the band tension around a certain concept record (and hit song).

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilroy_Was_Here_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styx_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wooden_Nickel_Records

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_(Styx_song)

https://www.aol.com/articles/styxs-lady-rescued-obscurity-saved-023855000.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acdgz6aii1M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Curulewski

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/john-curulewski-left-styx/

https://iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,2218093,page=8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Illusion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fooling_Yourself_%28The_Angry_Young_Man%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_(Styx_album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieces_of_Eight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Theatre_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowblind_(Styx_song)

https://ideas.fandom.com/wiki/Styx_(band)

https://blabbermouth.net/news/how-did-styx-end-up-being-accused-of-having-hidden-messages-in-its-songs-james-j-y-young-explains

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/styx-kilroy-was-here/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_from_%22The_Elder%22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilroy_was_here

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1983/06/03/styx/e10d61f5-be7f-4141-922f-8ce883721f47/

https://www.facebook.com/AXSTV/videos/styx-get-candid-about-dennis-deyoung-and-what-led-to-their-split-with-him-from-t/3933424623459356/

https://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=46895

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