The guys chase down the long running rumor that winning too many Grammys too quickly can end a career by examining a few stories of bands that won the hardware and hit hard times.

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https://variety.com/2021/music/news/grammys-best-new-artist-curse-1234892921/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starland_Vocal_Band

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starland_Vocal_Band_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afternoon_Delight

https://americansongwriter.com/the-rather-randy-meaning-behind-afternoon-delight-by-starland-vocal-band/

https://arresteddevelopment.fandom.com/wiki/Afternoon_Delight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Song_of_the_Year#1970s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacht_rock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Ray_Vaughan

https://www.guitarplayer.com/music/christopher-cross-filled-in-for-a-sick-ritchie-blackmore

https://www.guitarplayer.com/gear/get-an-up-close-look-at-stevie-ray-vaughans-number-one-strat-in-this-historic-video

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Cross

https://www.goldminemag.com/articles/theres-singer-songwriter-christopher-cross-meets-eye

https://www.statesman.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/11/01/christopher-cross-marks-40th-anniversary-debut-album-paramount/6125267001/

Amazing photo of the band Flash: https://web.archive.org/web/20110715222114/http://www.saboomie.com/txband/flash.jpg

https://www.austinchronicle.com/music/2012-01-20/the-reluctant-celebrity/

https://michaelcorcoran.substack.com/p/christopher-cross-40-years-of-grief

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Cross_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_New_Artist

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Brian and Murdock explore the insane popularity and pressure facing the Beatles in the mid-60's and the crazy rumor right in the middle that catapaulted them to even BIGGER fame.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/why-did-the-beatles-stop-touring-beatlemania/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_popular_than_Jesus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_God_Dead%3F

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking

https://americansongwriter.com/george-harrison-says-paul-mccartneys-dead-in-new-dvd/

https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/misc-unsigned-bands/the-mystery-tour-the-ballad-of-paul-chords-2283315

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/niu-newspaper-retraction-paul-mccartney/

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A letter requesting some detective work around 80's party rock sends the guys on an unexpected quest to tell the tale of that time Jimmy Page ripped off the opening act.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kix_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Songs_(Cinderella_album)

https://www.harmonycentral.com/forums/topic/1260265-cinderellakix-song-comparison-same-song/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Holmes

https://www.vulture.com/2014/09/how-bill-cosby-helped-launch-joan-rivers-comedy-career.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_%26_Grier

https://web.archive.org/web/20101122184126/http://furious.com/perfect/jakeholmes.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazed_and_Confused_(Jake_Holmes_song)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yardbirds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_blues

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Samwell-Smith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawdaddy_Club

https://outonthefloor.co.uk/the-crawdaddy-club/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page

The Prom Story: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/essay/before-he-formed-led-zeppelin-jimmy-page-played-a-prom-in-ohio

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/jun/30/led-zeppelin-sued-dazed-and-confused

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/1970s-watertown-sinatras-overlooked-miserabilist-concept-arnell-smire/

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The guys go back to 1999 to unpack the story of two internet friends and how they accidentally change the future of music - all while (Saint) Anger-ing one of the biggest bands in the world.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica_v._Napster,_Inc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Fanning

https://www.businessinsider.com/sean-parker-life-career-napster-facebook-billionaire-pictures-2020-3

The 2000 Time magazine article about Napster: https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,998068,00.html

https://museumofportablesound.com/mp325-2/

https://www.kerrang.com/metallica-vs-napster-the-lawsuit-that-redefined-how-we-listen-to-music

The Alex Winter documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZqkn9hT5w

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/feb/24/napster-music-free-file-sharing

https://fortune.com/2013/09/05/ashes-to-ashes-peer-to-peer-an-oral-history-of-napster/

Lars in front of the senate judiciary committee - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGk0xY5Vh0

https://www.mtv.com/news/4rzogn/dr-dre-sues-napster

https://blabbermouth.net/news/lars-ulrich-admits-delivering-names-of-napster-users-was-maybe-not-the-smartest-pr-move-of-all-time

Chuck D and Lars on Charlie Rose: https://youtu.be/1OIqtHBbDWA

https://www.mtv.com/news/k625y4/napster-to-sponsor-free-tour-by-limp-bizkit-cypress-hill

The Wired article: https://www.wired.com/2000/04/giving-it-back-to-metallica/

2020 SPIN article: https://www.spin.com/2020/04/revisiting-the-lessons-of-metallicas-napster-lawsuit-in-the-era-of-coronavirus/

The Bandsplaining video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUm6no5MXYA

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113924&page=1

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/2002/09/04/judge-blocks-napsters-sale-to-bertelsmann/c8d1ec76-c151-46dc-8b35-809d74f846aa/

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The guys get a letter encouraging them to explore a musical rivalry of a slightly different kind than the normal show fare - one involving Constantinople, feuding brothers, and serious alchemy.

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https://mcaulaydrums.com/CYMBALS/item4498.html

https://thedrumninja.com/where-are-buddy-richs-drum-sets/#:~:text=Buddy%20Rich%20was%20a%20Zildjian,popularity%20even%20more%20amongst%20drummers.

https://reverb.com/news/crash-clash-the-shared-history-of-zidjian-and-sabian

https://www.familybusinessmagazine.com/clashing-cymbals-are-music-their-ears

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avedis_Zildjian_Company

Modern Drummer, 1983 article: https://www.soft.com.sg/forum/showthread.php?21422-Zildjian-Sabian-history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1940

UPI Archives, April of 1981: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/04/15/Cymbal-making-family-clashes-in-court/5192356158800/

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/arts/armand-zildjian-81-head-of-family-of-cymbal-makers.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabian_Cymbals

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The guys get a letter asking why Diamond Dave was being so mouthy about a certain band of British punks during Van Halen's headling set at the 1983 US Festival. This leads to an investigation of authenticity, genre death, and lots of Jack Daniels consumption.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clash

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Rhodes

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/185213

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Calling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Jones_(The_Clash_guitarist)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Halen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Halen_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diver_Down

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Festival

https://www.loudersound.com/features/us-festival-1983

https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/1007bq4/does_anyone_know_why_david_lee_roth_said_that/

Alan Berry documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JrKjGBnHA

https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/8-382-3637?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/flashback-the-clash-say-goodbye-at-the-1983-us-festival-57636/

https://www.spin.com/2023/05/us-festival-40th-anniversary-oral-history/

The initial US Festival 83 press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUT5sP_egM

DLR at press conference weekend of fest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLKxRAAFGQ4

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-reason-why-the-clash-fired-mick-jones/

Robert Fithen YouTube episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhpaSDYvwaE

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/clash-mick-jones-last-us-festival-1983/

The Clash’s US set:https://youtu.be/dsZks2ZxqTs?si=GktR4U2yjwhXEopH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosmo_Vinyl

https://www.grunge.com/733482/the-guinness-world-record-that-was-created-for-van-halen/

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In this episode, Brian and Murdock dive into a listener's question about music copyright issues in film, revealing the surprising impact licensing decisions can have on artists' careers. Discover how an '80s action star's soundtrack search — and one band’s refusal — opened the door for another group to land a career-changing opportunity. It's a behind-the-scenes look at the intersection of music, movies, and legal rights.

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https://www.npr.org/2012/01/03/144624329/the-big-bad-swap-the-problem-with-replaced-music

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/17-movies-and-tv-shows-that-were-refused-rights-to-songs/

https://nypost.com/2023/03/04/how-sylvester-stallone-lost-his-rocky-legacy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_III

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonna_Fly_Now

https://societyofrock.com/the-one-eye-opening-fact-that-queen-and-survivor-have-in-common-who-wouldve-thought/

https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/how-survivor-wrote-eye-of-the-tiger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Sullivan

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/survivor-frankie-sullivan-eye-of-the-tiger-rocky-interview-1235088938/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Scotti

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Garrett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotti_Brothers_Records

https://jessecoffey100498.medium.com/scotti-brothers-records-story-and-album-discography-1fff2e668ffc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Tiger

https://jimpeterik.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/jimpeterik_press_bio.pdf

https://www.hollandsentinel.com/story/entertainment/books/2014/11/05/jim-peterik-shares-his-life/36005860007/

https://www.facebook.com/therosieandbillshowpage/videos/jim-peterik-the-amazing-story-behind-eye-of-the-tiger/812321673662008/

https://elmhurstmagazine.com/jim-peterik/

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Brian and Murdock get a listener letter asking what happened to Mark Knopfler's world-conquering, MTV video pioneering band Dire Straits.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Knopfler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_Withers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothers_in_Arms_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Dancer_(Tina_Turner_song)

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Mark-Knopfler-entrust-Private-Dancer-to-Tina-Turner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Dancer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Explosion

https://direstraitsblog.com/blog/history-dire-straits-1977-1979-first-two-albums/

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/mark_knopfler_explains_how_he_unintentionally_became_a_songwriter_opens_up_on_his_relationship_with_electric_guitar.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_over_Gold

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Davies_(talent_manager)

https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/tina-turner-queen-of-rock-roll-190581/

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/blogs/blog-on-the-tracks/3294741/The-worst-guitar-solo-in-the-world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_for_Nothing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Every_Street

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Independent_Recording#AIR_Montserrat_(1979%E2%80%931989)

https://virginradio.co.uk/music/140768/mark-knopfler-potential-dire-straits-reunion

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Brian and Murdock have fun revisiting the early-90's and the idea of the "multi-tiered celebrity" through the person of Shaquille O'Neal. Did an emerging alt-rock god really almost collab with the 7-foot superstar on wax?

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https://smashing-pumpkins-recording-sessions.fandom.com/wiki/Summer_1996_%E2%80%93_Soundworks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_(song)

https://brobible.com/sports/article/shaq-rap-career/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Diesel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Fu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu-Schnickens

https://www.rapreviews.com/2009/09/chip-fu-interview/

https://www.dubcnn.com/2013/02/23/chip-fu-interview-february-2013/

https://golianopoulos.com/new-blog/2014/1/31/shaquille-oneals-rap-career

https://www.forbes.com/sites/imeekpo/2024/05/28/shaq-diesel-the-nba-stars-iconic-rap-collaborations-with-michael-jackson-jay-z-biggie-smalls-and-more/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Up_Doc%3F_(Can_We_Rock)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Fu:_Da_Return

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_at_the_Beach_(1994)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellon_Collie_and_the_Infinite_Sadness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings

Corgan talking about Lynch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXdqqakB6Cg

Shaq talking about Biggie: https://www.reddit.com/r/NotoriousBIG/comments/1gre8u5/shaquille_oneal_talks_about_biggie/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Notorious_B.I.G.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ready_to_Die

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/pop-culture/2024/06/26/shaq-third-rap-album-released-streaming-jay-z-nas-collaboration/79757669007/

https://americansongwriter.com/behind-the-jay-z-and-nas-feud/

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The guys go back to the mid-80's to find out the varying circumstances that brought together (arguably) the greatest super group of all time.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Harrison

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Nine_(George_Harrison_album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Harrison

https://www.happyscribe.com/public/criminalia/my-guitar-gently-weeps-george-harrison-s-stalkers

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1664429/the-beatles-george-harrison-death-shot-quit-split

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/jeff-lynne-hang-out-with-george-harrison/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Lynne

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Move

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Light_Orchestra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checking_Out_(1989_film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Orbison

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Hearts_(Roy_Orbison_album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Girl

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bob-dylans-secret-recording-session-with-george-harrison-and-friends-188040/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan

https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/bob-dylan-s-garage-studio-was-a-real-garage-there-may-even-have-been-lawnmowers-in-there-7698/

https://royorbisonjr.com/2017/10/09/tom-petty-2/

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