Tune in for an amazing conversation with our good friend, Twyla, about her divorce experience – the good advice she got, the bad advice she didn’t take, and how she managed to get through the process, coming out the other side as a better person. She shares about her philosophy of being fair and just, not fighting over pots and pans, the value of therapy, and having divorce-free space. Twyla and Corey bond over the triggering nature of Christmas decorations, and she and Tracy connect around the idea of a pet custody agreement, perhaps because Tracy admits her longest relationship was with her border collie. This episode is chalk full of info on asking for help, drawing boundaries, navigating alone time, and overcoming fear.

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Listen as Corey, Tracy, and transition life coach, Ellen Rothstein, talk all about handling life’s changes, particularly divorce. The conversation covers a lot of ground . . . from keeping your eye on the prize, self-care, and healthy comfort to finding connection and fostering familiar routines. Ellen shares about the role of intuition and her Identify-Prioritize-Implement (I-P-I) method for dealing with transition, while Corey talks about profound moments with deer and Tracy compares bed bugs to divorce. You won’t want to miss this fascinating conversation about strategies to emotionally and tactically work through life’s transitions!

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Tune in for our interview with Judith Kaluzny, retired lawyer and mediator turned writer, for an insightful conversation about the impact of divorce and how to avoid the calamities that can occur through the process – on both partners and children. She shares fascinating statistics about the growing nature of mediation, the lack of logic in having to pass quizzes for every type of license except a marriage license, and what people might not understand about marriage that can impact them later during a divorce. She and Tracy both emphasize the importance of a pre-marriage agreement and how the way you deed your house with your partner can come back to haunt you, whereas Corey chimes in with her ideal partnership involving living next door in a duplex!

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Tune in as Tracy shares her perspective on conflict negotiation from a legal lens and Corey shares hers from an emotional intelligence lens . . . all to say much of the same thing! Hear them discuss the importance of knowing your goals, being honest, letting go of your ego, showing your cards to the right people, searching for an optimal solution for all parties, and simply being kind. And, if you want to know how Corey ended up buying a used car she couldn’t drive or what Tracy’s view on oscillating fans is, you won’t want to miss this!

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Ever heard of Baby Einstein, Inside Out, or Mom’s House, Dad’s House? Join us for a fascinating discussion about all of this and more with psychotherapist, Donna C. Moss, who specializes in working with kids and teens of divorce. We discuss the notion of the parentalized child, and Donna emphasizes the importance of buying a pair of shoes for each household, not nesting, maintaining consistency, and getting kids connected to therapy so as to not “lock up” their feelings and instead assert their agency. Both Corey and Tracy have a lot to share about their personal experiences, particularly Tracy’s haphazard approach to life and Corey’s assertion she came out of the womb with a to-do list. In the end, they all agree it’s important to pay great attention to children’s thoughts, feelings, and reactions during the divorce process and get any help or support you can for them as they move through their own journeys, contending with the monumental changes that divorce brings.

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Check out our discussion with Modern Law founder and family law attorney, Billie Tarascio, where we explore everything from finding the right lawyer to emotionally processing the divorce, and making it through survival mode to the helpful or hurtful role of well-intentioned third-parties. Tracy chimes in with how her fear of doing her taxes is a perfect analogy for the frozen state some find themselves in when anticipating divorce, whereas Corey shares how having the goal of parents sitting next to each other at the school play can help center the child in divorce decision-making. If you are contemplating divorce or are curious about it from a lawyer’s point of view, you won’t want to miss this episode!

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Tune in for this amazing conversation with attorney, mediator, and intuition coach, Jen Mitchell Love, where we talk about moving into more holistic, healthy, and transformative ways to divorce. While Tracy finds kinship in Jen’s approach, Corey finds solace in her messages. Whatever you might be seeking, you will find guidance in Jen’s words on transforming soul contracts, lineage healing, gratitude, and how to divorce with love. And, for a bonus, learn more about the (platonic) soul contract between Corey and Tracy.

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It’s hard to prepare for divorce – the emotions, the logistics, the legalities. There is a lot to balance. Deciding between a DIY amicable split, a mediator, a lawyer . . . telling friends and family . . . getting your affairs in order . . . and getting emotional support can all be overwhelming. Listen in as Tracy shares her thoughts on balancing these competing roles, and Corey chimes in with how emotional it can be to divide assets that have meaning, like signing over the title to the car. They both agree that it’s important to separate the emotional and legal aspects of divorce, move quickly, strive for amicability when possible, and try to maintain no-contact while going through legal proceedings. Most importantly, they discuss what they have learned from their separations – that ending a relationship is not about failure, but instead about seeking happiness, that there is no shame in telling others, and that neither of them will ever share a Netflix account with a partner again.

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Heartbreak, the Roller Coaster, Mending, Letting Go, and Moving On . . . these are the stages of divorce, according to psychotherapist, Oona Metz. Tune in for a conversation chalk full of great insight, like the power of prediction, letting go of the narrative, traumatic divorces, and how support groups can help people feel connected, validated, and accountable for their healing. Find out what Tracy means when she says, “Don’t fight the hypo,” or what Corey is talking about with the trigger of not trimming the tree. If you are looking for how to work through the stages of divorce and if a support group is right for you, then this is the episode to tune into!

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Whether it’s too much conflict, lack of commitment, incompatibility, or betrayal, people divorce for many reasons. Tune in to hear Corey and Tracy talk about the most common causes for divorce and how those might show up in divorce. For instance, if you had communication issues in the marriage, you might have communication issues in the divorce process. But, you also don’t want to miss hearing why Tracy wants the freedom to have a party and what Corey’s thoughts are on a marriage affidavit and the compromising phase.

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