Our favorite historian and host of The Tides of History podcast joins us to ask and answer a question that's been on our minds since we started the show: Are popes mayors? The answer is: Kind of!

To do so, we talk through the Pope's very mayor-like role during specifically the Renaissance, and the most mayor-like pope of them all, Rodrigo Borgia aka Pope Alexander VI. Now pull out your sword, and get to stabbin'!

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Also, if you're on the west coast of America, why not catch Mattie on tour next week!