Emma Rendell joins us to explore the ethics of ghosting after a first date and the importance of closure. We talk about how modern communication has impacted the dating landscape and how anonymity and the illusion of endless options shape our expectations while online dating. Emma also enlightens us on what we’re now calling “the follow-up” and how you can put it to use in your own communication. And of course, we also get Emma to share some of her own riveting ghosting stories with us.

Welcome to our new podcast, Roger That. We look forward to introducing you to some of our friends, peers, and experts in future episodes, but for the first one we’re starting off with a conversation between just Kelly and Emma.

Great communication is simpler than we think, and it’s the key to connection. Hosts Kelly Rose Lamb and Emma Sato break the silence on ghosting and investigate the world of modern communication.

What happens when our words get in the way of what we’re trying to say? Why is it so hard to say what you mean? Why are we talking more, but saying less?

We are out to curate stories, hear from guests, and understand the ghosting phenomena.

Roger That is an anti-ghosting framework. Our goal is to inspire passionate connectors.