The guys have a chat to LA based copywriter and branding professional - Steph Sinnema on what it's like to consistently be working with other peoples 'creative babies'.
Steph shares the fun and not so fun sides of working with many different personalities behind brands and start ups, the art of copywriting, the goal of clarity in messaging and the importance of generational diversity.
Dan also reveals his love for Old Spice and his frustration at so many creative companies bad websites...