We're reeling on all things Barbie and can't help but chat it up on the hot-topic of roles and expectations. If you've ever felt confused about what you want, where you fit in, or how to connect inward to the best and truest version of yourself, this one is for you. Join us for this thoughtful conversation about meeting ourselves (and others) with honesty, truth and acceptance (even when we want to judge the sh*t out of everything).

(04:49) Holly's ex-boyfriend sings to her like Ken at the campfire and her reaction

(12:52) The role's we sign up for.

(19:31) Ando's experience with a deep need for approval

(23:01) Unconditional Love, a different breed

(26:51) Ando's realization of conforming and wasting energy

(36:54) Impermanance