In this episode, Alex sits down with Jon for their best conversation yet! Jon is a reoccuring guest and former member of the armed forces who currently works for the government in the West Coast. The two have a wide-ranging conversation that delves into why Ron Desantis may be more dangerous than Trump, why the GOP has moved away from conservative principles and towards reactionary authoritarianism, and why Florida is only a model of hope if you agree with DeSantis. Alex argues this is because of the “Flight 93 Moment” that happened prior to Trump’s electoral victory in 2016. Basically, many Republicans value fighting the left and demonizing the opposition as a way to justify their drift away from conservative values. The two also discuss American distrust in politics, whether January 6th was an actual riot, whether a true coup could occur, and why January 6th could be the beginning and not the end.