What if two people can experience the exact same moment and walk away with completely different realities?

In this thoughtful conversation, Jillian and Meg explore the invisible lens through which we experience our lives. The stories, assumptions, conditioning, and patterns that quietly shape how we interpret the world around us.

Drawing from Jillian’s doctoral studies and their own personal experiences, they unpack the idea that reality is not simply what happens to us. It is also how we perceive, interpret, and respond to what happens.

Together, they explore the difference between intentional living and living from default patterns. They discuss how our brains are constantly scanning for meaning, creating stories, and reinforcing beliefs, often without our awareness.

The conversation moves through mindset, personal responsibility, presence, nervous system conditioning, and the power of slowing down long enough to question the stories we automatically tell ourselves.

Rather than advocating for toxic positivity, they invite listeners to become more conscious of the lens they are choosing and how small shifts in perspective can completely transform daily life.

Ultimately, this episode is a reminder that while we cannot control everything that happens around us, we do have influence over the lens through which we experience it.

• The concept of the lens we view life through
• How interpretation shapes our experience of reality
• The difference between default thinking and intentional thinking
• Why two people can experience the same situation differently
• Challenging assumptions, conditioning, and automatic stories
• The difference between perspective shifts and toxic positivity
• Taking ownership of your internal experience
• Giving people the benefit of the doubt
• Victimhood versus personal agency
• How slowing down changes perception
• The connection between presence and perspective
• Using the five senses to become more present
• Small mindset shifts that create major life changes
• Building new patterns and neural pathways
• Why slowing down can actually create more sustainable speed

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Email: [email protected]

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The book Jillian referenced: You Are Here by Thich Nhat Hanh

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

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What happens when you spend your whole life trying not to be “too much”?

In this deeply personal conversation, Meg and Jill explore what it means to truly take up space. Not just through speaking louder or finding your voice, but through allowing yourself to exist fully without constantly shrinking, shape-shifting, apologizing, or compromising your needs to make other people comfortable.

Jillian opens up about realizing how often she erased herself in everyday moments. Always being agreeable. Never expressing preferences. Constantly minimizing her wants and needs in order to feel accepted, safe, or easy to be around.

Together, they unpack the deeper emotional roots behind people pleasing, masking, emotional self-protection, and the fear of not belonging.

Meg shares how she learned to stop adjusting herself to fit every room, while Jillian reflects on how childhood experiences slowly taught her to disconnect from her own personality and instincts in order to feel accepted by others.

The conversation moves through parenting, belonging, emotional safety, masking, sensitivity, and the exhausting experience of trying to make yourself digestible for everyone around you.

Ultimately, this episode becomes a reminder that true belonging is not built through fitting in. It’s built through being fully yourself and allowing the right people to meet you there.

• What “taking up space” actually means emotionally
• The subtle ways people erase themselves daily
• Constant compromising and over-accommodating others
• The emotional roots of people pleasing and masking
• Feeling “too much” versus feeling fully yourself
• Emotional sensitivity and fear of not being received
• How childhood experiences shape self-protection patterns
• The difference between fitting in and belonging
• Learning to stop shape-shifting for acceptance
• Parenting while honoring your own needs and capacity
• Overcommitting and saying yes to everything
• Reclaiming personal preferences, desires, and boundaries
• Feeling emotionally safe enough to be fully seen
• Why authenticity attracts deeper connection
• Learning to love and accept yourself without shrinking

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Email: [email protected]

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Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

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What changes when you stop waiting for your future life to save you?

In this honest and layered conversation, Meg and Jill explore the idea of radical self-responsibility. Not as self-blame or perfectionism, but as taking ownership of the life, patterns, choices, and energy that shape your everyday experience.

Jillian shares a surprisingly emotional realization that started with something simple: deep cleaning her house. After years of telling herself that someday, when she was more successful, someone else would handle it, she realized how disconnected she had become from her own agency and ability to change her current reality now.

From there, the conversation expands into nervous system patterns, self-talk, burnout, autonomy, over-responsibility, and the subtle ways people give away ownership of their own lives.

Meg brings in a powerful reframe around bullying ourselves into change versus creating safety around growth. Together, they unpack how awareness, permission, boundaries, and personal agency all play a role in creating a life that actually feels aligned.

This episode is both practical and deeply reflective. A conversation about reclaiming authorship over your life one small decision at a time.

• What radical self-responsibility actually means
• The difference between self-responsibility and self-blame
• How overwhelm and avoidance can disconnect us from action
• Bullying yourself versus creating nervous system safety
• Negative self-talk and the impact it has emotionally
• Parenting conversations around self-worth and inner dialogue
• The subtle ways people outsource their own power
• Over-responsibility and carrying things that are not yours
• Boundaries, autonomy, and letting others fulfill their own role
• Rewriting relationship patterns through trust and space
• Designing your life intentionally instead of waiting for “someday”
• Recognizing the autonomy and agency you already have
• Counter-cultural choices around rest, breaks, and personal wellbeing
• How small compromises slowly disconnect us from ourselves
• Learning to take ownership of your time, energy, and values

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Email: [email protected]

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Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

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Meg opens this conversation by introducing Amanda Haveman, a business owner, mother of seven, and someone who embodies what it looks like to live fully outside of traditional roles.

From the beginning, Amanda shares how her life is a blend of motherhood, business ownership, and personal growth. What stands out immediately is her perspective that work life and home life are not separate. They are deeply connected.

Meg and Jillian explore Amanda’s experience working in a male-dominated industry and what it has required of her to find her voice, define her role, and step fully into her strengths. Amanda reflects on how learning to stay in her zone of genius, while trusting others to do the same, has transformed both her confidence and the way her team operates.

The conversation expands into the realities of delegation, not just in business but at home. Amanda shares honestly about the internal struggle of letting go of control, especially as a mother, and how that shift has been necessary for her to show up fully in both spaces.

As the episode deepens, Amanda opens up about her childhood and how growing up in a chaotic and unhealed environment shaped her drive to create something different for her own children. The discussion moves into generational healing, forgiveness, and the boundaries required to protect the life she is building.

A powerful shift emerges around self-trust. Amanda shares how learning to trust her previous self and her future self has reduced anxiety and allowed her to move through life with more ease and confidence.

Meg and Jillian reflect on how many people unknowingly place themselves into boxes based on expectations, and how stepping outside of those boxes requires both awareness and courage.

The episode closes with Amanda sharing her passion for showing women that they are capable of building a life that includes both a thriving family and meaningful work. Her message is clear. There is no single path. You are allowed to create your own.

• What it’s like to work in a male-dominated industry

• Staying in your zone of genius and trusting others to do the same

• The connection between work life and home life

• Delegation at home and why it impacts your ability to show up at work

• The tension between motherhood and ambition

• Breaking generational patterns and creating a new path

• Forgiveness, boundaries, and protecting your peace

• The concept of trusting your previous self and your future self

• How identity shifts from proving to self-trust

• The idea of being “in a box” and how to step outside of it

• Reframing chaos as a need for stimulation and growth

• The stigma and misunderstanding around large families

• Why people are more capable than they’ve been led to believe

• You are capable of building a life that includes both family and meaningful work.

• Trusting your previous self and your future self reduces anxiety in the present.

• Delegation is necessary for sustainability, not a reflection of failure.

• Generational patterns can be broken through awareness and intentional action.

• Boundaries can exist alongside compassion.

• The environments and people around you shape how you see yourself.

• What feels overwhelming to others may be the level of stimulation you thrive in.

• You do not have to stay in roles or identities that no longer fit.

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What happens when the urge to quit isn’t actually about quitting?

In this deeply honest and vulnerable conversation, Meg and Jillian explore the emotional tension between overwhelm, self-protection, burnout, and alignment. From marriage and motherhood to parenting, work, and emotional safety, they unpack what it feels like when your nervous system wants out before your heart actually does.

Meg shares how her instinct is often to pull away, sever ties, or “bulldoze” through discomfort in order to protect herself, while Jillian reflects on her tendency to push through and overstay in situations before learning to slow down and trust herself.

Together, they explore the importance of creating space before making major decisions. Not reacting from urgency, emotion, or perfectionism, but allowing feelings to rise, fall, and settle before determining what is actually true.

The conversation moves through emotional regulation, parenting through big feelings, self-trust, codependency, overcommitment, and the pressure many people feel to “do things the right way.”

Rather than offering perfect answers, this episode becomes a reminder that being human is nuanced, messy, emotional, and deeply personal.

• The emotional urge to quit relationships, jobs, parenting responsibilities, or commitments
• The difference between reacting from overwhelm versus grounded alignment
• Fight, flight, bulldozing, and self-protection responses
• Why slowing down can help create clarity in difficult decisions
• The importance of “simmering” before making major choices
• How perfectionism contributes to burnout and emotional collapse
• The connection between self-trust and emotional safety
• Parenting through big feelings while still holding boundaries
• How people pleasing can disconnect us from our actual needs
• Learning to express truth without explosiveness
• The pressure of overcommitment and “badge of burnout” culture
• Using nature, movement, journaling, and reflection to process emotions
• The reminder that there is not always one universally “right” answer

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Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
• HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf

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What happens after the breakthrough?

In part two of this live coaching series, Jillian explores the space that comes after awareness. The part that is often overlooked. Moving from understanding something intellectually to actually living it.

After uncovering the belief patterns holding her back in the previous episode, Jillian notices her tendency to stop at the “aha.” To understand the shift, but not embody it.

Meg guides her into the body. Into sensation, presence, and awareness. Using a simple but powerful practice, they explore how tension lives in the body, how safety can be accessed, and how capacity is built not by fixing, but by feeling.

This conversation reframes what it means to “do the work.” Not as something rigid or structured, but as something fluid, intuitive, and available in every moment.

It’s a shift from performance to presence. From checking the box to actually being in it.

• The gap between intellectual understanding and embodiment
• Why awareness alone doesn’t create change
• How tension and stress show up physically in the body
• A simple somatic practice to build capacity for discomfort
• The concept of pendulation and nervous system regulation
• Where different parts of identity live in the body
• Why slowing down feels like a “waste of time” and how to reframe it
• Breaking the habit of turning healing into a checklist
• Using everyday moments as opportunities for presence
• The importance of variety and flexibility in personal practices
• Self-mothering and learning to ask: what do I need right now?

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Email: [email protected]

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Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
• HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf

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What if the resistance you feel isn’t about the work… but about who you’re allowing yourself to be while doing it?

In this episode, Meg coaches Jillian live in a raw and unfiltered conversation that uncovers the deeper layers behind control, anxiety, and identity. What begins as a discussion about trying to control outcomes quickly reveals something more foundational. A split between two versions of self.

Jillian shares the tension between who she is in the world and who she feels she is at home. The bold, visionary leader versus the smaller, more contracted version seeking safety. Together, they unpack where these patterns come from, why they persist, and what it looks like to begin integrating them instead of choosing between them.

This conversation moves beyond mindset and into embodiment. It explores what it really means to trust yourself, to feel safe being fully seen, and to step into a more complete version of who you already are.

• The hidden cost of trying to control outcomes instead of trusting the process
• Why resistance often shows up around the very practices that help us most
• The belief that success must come through grit, struggle, and sacrifice
• The internal split between “who I am at work” and “who I am at home”
• How safety, peace, and success can coexist instead of compete
• The fear of being fully seen and how it shapes behavior and identity
• Why contraction and expansion are both necessary parts of growth
• The difference between forcing change and allowing integration
• Reframing “hurting people” as inviting them into a higher version of themselves
• What it means to truly embody “I am her”

• You don’t have to choose between success and peace. They can exist together.
• The parts of you you’ve separated are meant to be integrated, not managed.
• Resistance is often a signal pointing directly to the belief that needs to be examined.
• You are already resourced. The evidence is in the people who fully know and love you.
• Growth doesn’t require force. It can happen through awareness, observation, and gentleness.
• You are not becoming someone new. You are allowing more of who you already are.

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Email: [email protected]

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Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
• Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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This episode is a little different.

This conversation originally took place on Own Your Choices Own Your Life with Marsha Vanwynsberghe and our joint podcast editor, Sue Ruh. It felt too important not to share here, as well.

There was something about the depth, the honesty, and the way this conversation unfolded that felt so aligned with what we’re creating inside Rooted & Rehumanizing. It felt real. It felt human.

So we’re sharing it with you.

No re-recording. No over-editing. Just a conversation that mattered enough to be heard again.

We talk about the part of growth that doesn’t get as much attention.

The space after awareness.

The moment where you see it, understand it, maybe can even explain it… but you’re not fully living it yet.

This is where so many people get stuck.

We explore the gap between knowing and embodying.

What it actually means to move something from your mind into your life.

This isn’t about more tools or more information.

It’s about presence. Being with what’s actually happening instead of trying to rush past it.

There’s a shift in this conversation from doing the work to being in it.

From trying to fix, to learning how to feel.

And that changes everything.

• The moment where you realize knowing isn’t the same as living
• Why awareness doesn’t change anything unless your body is involved
• How patterns keep running even when you “know better”
• The shift from trying to fix yourself to actually being with yourself
• Moving out of performance and into something real, present, and lived

There was something about this conversation that felt different.

It wasn’t just insightful.

It was real.

The kind of conversation where you can feel what’s happening underneath it, not just hear what’s being said.

And instead of trying to recreate that, we wanted to bring it here exactly as it happened.

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

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Website: https://trellissuite.com/

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Email: [email protected]

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Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
• HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf

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Jillian opens this conversation with a powerful shift in perspective as she prepares to launch Trellis. Faced with the reality that her patents will not be finalized before launch, she initially felt pressure to protect her ideas. But through reflection, she realized that her deeper mission is not ownership. It is impact.

This realization reframes everything. If the goal is to make the world better, then more people carrying similar ideas forward is not a threat. It is a multiplier.

Meg expands on this by exploring the difference between competition and collaboration. Rather than viewing others as threats, she invites listeners to see them as mirrors, mentors, and potential partners. Together, they discuss how comparison and competition often stem from scarcity thinking, while collaboration is rooted in abundance.

Jillian shares how this shows up in her own experience, noticing moments where she felt protective over her ideas or voice, especially when seeing others speak on similar topics. Over time, she has learned to interpret that not as a loss of edge, but as validation and alignment.

Meg brings the conversation into everyday life, reflecting on comparison in motherhood and social media. She shares how easy it is to feel “less than” when observing others, and how that can be reframed into appreciation rather than self-judgment.

Together, they highlight that comparison is often a signal. It points to something within us that we either value, desire, or feel disconnected from. When approached with curiosity instead of judgment, it becomes a pathway for growth.

The episode closes with a grounded and practical takeaway. Instead of asking who you are competing with, ask who you could learn from, collaborate with, or simply celebrate. Community is not something that happens automatically. It is something we choose to participate in.

• Community versus competition in business and life

• Letting go of scarcity thinking and embracing abundance

• Protecting ideas versus spreading impact

• Comparison as a signal rather than a problem

• Social media and its influence on self-perception

• Collaboration as a force multiplier

• Learning from others instead of competing with them

• Building intentional community in everyday life

• Collaboration expands impact faster than competition.

• Comparison often reveals what we value or desire.

• Scarcity thinking creates isolation, while abundance creates connection.

• Other people’s success can be a mirror, not a threat.

• Community requires intentional participation, not passive observation.

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Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
• Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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Meg and Jillian explore what it means to build an “A team” in both business and life, and how support, structure, and collaboration unlock deeper impact.

Meg shares how this topic surfaced through a simple conversation, leading her to reflect on the people she has intentionally brought into her business. From a bookkeeper to a virtual assistant to creative support, each addition allowed her to stay rooted in her zone of genius while trusting others to carry areas outside of it.

Jillian reflects on her own experience, noticing that as she leans into trust and alignment, the right people seem to appear at the exact moment she needs them. From technical experts to operational support, she sees her “team” as an extension of her ability to execute at a higher level.

The conversation expands into a deeper discussion around structure. Both Meg and Jillian explore how creating systems, processes, and support is not about control, but about creating a container that allows freedom, flow, and creativity.

Jillian connects this to a broader belief about business and systems. She challenges the idea that systems should control people, and instead proposes that systems should support humans. This leads into a powerful conversation about redefining work through roles instead of hours, and how misaligned structures can limit both productivity and fulfillment.

Meg brings the conversation back to a human level, emphasizing that structure should never become rigid. Instead, it should act as a flexible support system that evolves alongside growth.

The episode closes with a reflection on community. Both Meg and Jillian acknowledge that true growth does not happen in isolation. Building an A team is not just about outsourcing tasks, but about participating in collective wisdom, shared support, and rising together.

• What it means to build an “A team” in life and business

• Hiring and outsourcing to stay in your zone of genius

• Trusting that the right support appears when needed

• Structure as a tool for freedom rather than control

• The balance between structure and flexibility

• Systems that support humans instead of controlling them

• Rethinking work through roles instead of hours

• Community, collaboration, and collective growth

• You do not have to do everything alone to be successful.

• The right support allows you to focus on what you do best.

• Structure creates freedom when it is aligned and flexible.

• Systems should be designed to support people, not control them.

• Growth expands when you allow yourself to receive help and collaborate.

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
• Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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