What if the breakthrough you're searching for isn't found by doing more, but by allowing yourself to do less?

In this conversation, Jillian and Meg explore why rest is often one of the most productive things we can do. After Meg returns from an 11-day vacation where she completely unplugged from work, they unpack what it felt like to disconnect, the discomfort of slowing down, and the surprising realization that nothing fell apart while she was away.

Together, they discuss how our best ideas often emerge when we stop forcing them, why constantly operating in "go mode" limits our perspective, and how slowing down creates space for clarity, creativity, and better decisions.

Jillian also shares a major breakthrough in her Trellis journey, explaining how stepping back from the pressure to simply commercialize the business allowed her to see a much bigger vision. One that bridges business operations, computational science, and academic research.

Ultimately, this episode is a reminder that productivity isn't measured by constant motion. Sometimes the greatest progress happens when we create space to think, breathe, and trust that clarity will come.

• Why rest is productive
• Learning to unplug without guilt
• Trusting that everything doesn't depend on you
• How slowing down leads to better problem-solving
• The connection between rest and creativity
• Why clarity often comes after we stop forcing answers
• Viewing challenges through a calmer lens
• Taking small pauses to gain a bigger perspective
• Jillian's breakthrough around the future of Trellis
• Bridging business operations, computational science, and research
• Why clean operational data matters before AI
• Building a strong foundation before scaling
• Honoring practices that keep you grounded
• Being honest with yourself about what you truly need
• Creating sustainable success instead of constant hustle

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

Mentioned in this episode:

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Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

What if the next step forward actually starts with recognizing how far you've already come?

In this one-year anniversary episode of Rooted & Rehumanizing, Jillian and Meg reflect on the journey from recording their first episode in a studio with pages of notes and uncertainty to showing up each week with unscripted, honest conversations.

Together, they explore why celebration is not just something we do after success, but an essential part of creating sustainable growth. Meg shares why we cannot keep building on top of uncelebrated success and how bringing celebration into the body through our senses helps us fully experience the moments we often rush past.

Looking back over 52 episodes, Jillian and Meg unpack the biggest lessons this podcast has taught them, including trusting a vision before it exists, taking small steps toward something bigger, asking for help, leaning on others, and allowing something meaningful to grow over time.

The conversation becomes a reflection on more than a podcast. It is about creating safe spaces, sharing our stories, allowing ourselves to be seen, and realizing that our experiences can help others feel less alone.

Ultimately, this episode is a reminder to pause, look around, and celebrate the person you had to become to get where you are today.

• Celebrating one year of Rooted & Rehumanizing
• Why we struggle to pause and acknowledge progress
• The importance of celebrating small milestones
• How celebration creates sustainable growth
• Bringing celebration into the body through all five senses
• Looking back at who you were one year ago
• Turning a vision into reality one small step at a time
• Why big dreams happen through small actions
• Learning to ask for help and lean on others
• Building something meaningful with other people
• Trusting others and letting go of doing everything yourself
• Creating spaces where people feel safe and seen
• Why sharing your story helps others understand their own
• The power of realizing you are not alone
• Continuing to grow while honoring where you've been

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

Mentioned in this episode:

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Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

What if success was never about doing it all, but about building a life where you don't have to?

In this conversation, Jillian and Meg are joined by Alice Heiman, a sales expert, entrepreneur, mentor, and host of Sales Talk for CEOs, for a powerful discussion about entrepreneurship, women in business, money, guilt, support, and redefining what success actually means.

Alice shares her experience working with founders and CEOs, including the unique challenges women face while building companies, leading teams, raising families, managing households, and carrying responsibilities that often go unseen.

Together, they explore the beliefs that keep women from asking for help, charging what they're worth, pursuing financial success, and accepting support. From hiring help at home to overcoming the discomfort around sales, Alice challenges the idea that success requires sacrifice and reminds us that receiving support allows us to create a bigger impact.

The conversation also dives into redefining wealth beyond money. Wealth as freedom. Wealth as choice. Wealth as presence, connection, health, experiences, and having the capacity to become the person you want to be.

Ultimately, this episode is a reminder that you don't have to prove your worth by carrying everything alone. Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is ask for what you need and allow yourself to receive it.

• Why women often carry an invisible mental load
• The unique challenges female entrepreneurs face
• Letting go of guilt around success, money, and support
• Why making money allows you to create more impact
• Reframing sales as helping and serving
• Overcoming the belief that success changes who you are
• Why asking for help is a strength
• Letting go of perfection and control
• Accepting support without guilt
• Redefining what wealth means to you
• Building a business around freedom and alignment
• Understanding money as a tool, not an identity
• Learning to receive as much as you give
• Asking "Who am I being?" instead of only focusing on what you're doing
• Taking care of yourself so you can better support others

Connect with Alice:

• Website: https://aliceheiman.com/
• Sales Talk for CEOs Podcast: www.salestalkforceos.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/alice-heiman-llc/

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

Mentioned in this episode:

Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

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What if the things that trigger us are not the problem, but an invitation to look deeper?

In this conversation, Jillian and Meg explore what our reactions, frustrations, and defensive moments can reveal about the parts of ourselves that are still asking for attention.

After Meg shares a frustrating moment with technology, they unpack how something as simple as a forgotten password can expose much deeper patterns around urgency, productivity, slowing down, and feeling safe.

Together, they explore the idea that triggers are not always about what is happening around us. They are often signals pointing toward old beliefs, unhealed stories, and the places where we are still learning to trust ourselves.

The conversation moves through productivity, rest, self-worth, contribution, relationships, money, parenting, and identity. They discuss the difference between worthiness and fulfillment, why slowing down can feel uncomfortable, and how judgment toward others can reveal hidden fears within ourselves.

Ultimately, this episode is an invitation to stop seeing triggers as something to avoid and start seeing them as information. Because the moments that challenge us often reveal exactly where we have the opportunity to grow.

• What our triggers reveal about us
• Why small frustrations can expose deeper patterns
• The connection between urgency, productivity, and self-worth
• Learning to slow down without losing momentum
• Why systems and routines help build self-trust
• The difference between worthiness and fulfillment
• How contribution creates connection and purpose
• Recognizing when old patterns resurface
• Using defensiveness as a signal for deeper reflection
• Why self-judgment often creates external judgment
• How beliefs about money, success, and identity shape our actions
• Learning to trust your future self
• Creating systems that support who you want to become
• Viewing triggers as lessons instead of obstacles

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

HeartMath BioFeedback Device:

https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg

Mentioned in this episode:

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Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

What if the biggest thing standing between you and the life you want isn't your circumstances, but the stories you keep telling yourself?

After skipping her 20-year high school reunion, Jillian reflects on the unexpected regret that followed and the realization that fear, not reality, made the decision for her. What began as a conversation about one missed event quickly became a much deeper exploration of the invisible ways we all hold ourselves back.

Together, Jillian and Meg unpack the beliefs, fears, and protective patterns that keep us from saying yes to opportunities, putting ourselves out there, and stepping into the next version of ourselves. They discuss the difference between fear-based and values-based decisions, building tolerance for discomfort, and why growth often begins by taking one small step before we feel ready.

The conversation also explores entrepreneurship, identity, exposure therapy, coaching, and why so many of us become overwhelmed by focusing on the entire journey instead of the very next step.

Ultimately, this episode is a reminder that courage isn't the absence of fear. It's choosing not to let fear make the decision for you.

• Why we hold ourselves back from the things we want most
• Fear-based decisions versus values-based decisions
• The hidden beliefs that keep us playing small
• Regret as a powerful teacher
• Building tolerance for discomfort and uncertainty
• Exposure therapy and practicing courage
• Entrepreneurship as a catalyst for personal growth
• The connection between identity and being seen
• Why thinking too far ahead creates overwhelm
• Breaking big dreams into manageable next steps
• Coaching as a tool for creating clarity
• Curiosity as the antidote to feeling stuck
• Becoming the person you're working toward
• Choosing courage over comfort

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:

https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg

Self Mastery Program:

https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program

Mentioned in this episode:

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Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

What if the way you experience your life isn't determined by your circumstances, but by what you're paying attention to?

In this conversation, Jillian and Meg explore the Reticular Activating System (RAS), the brain's natural filtering system that determines what reaches our conscious awareness. While we can't control everything that happens to us, we can influence what our minds learn to notice.

Together, they unpack how our beliefs shape the way we experience the world. If we're constantly looking for evidence that we're not enough, we'll find it. If we're looking for opportunities, connection, gratitude, and abundance, we'll begin noticing those too. Not because they suddenly appeared, but because they were there all along.

Through stories about parenting, business, personal growth, and navigating life's challenges, Jillian and Meg discuss the power of shifting from unconscious defaults to intentional awareness. They also explore acceptance, trust, and the difference between pain and suffering, reminding us that while hardship is inevitable, how we experience it is often within our influence.

Ultimately, this episode is an invitation to become intentional with the lens through which you experience your life because you truly do find what you're looking for.

• What the Reticular Activating System (RAS) is
• How your brain filters what you notice
• Why you find what you're looking for
• Training your mind to notice abundance instead of scarcity
• How beliefs shape identity and emotional experience
• Radical self-responsibility and reclaiming your power
• Parenting through curiosity instead of frustration
• Recognizing opportunities that were already there
• The difference between pain and suffering
• Acceptance as the path to empowerment
• Trusting the process during difficult seasons
• Seeing challenges as something happening for you instead of to you
• Living from your future self instead of your current defaults
• Becoming intentional with the way you experience everyday life

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

HeartMath BioFeedback Device:

https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg

Mentioned in this episode:

Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

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What happens when the thing you're most afraid to share is the very thing someone else needs to hear?

In this powerful conversation, Jillian and Meg welcome nurse coach, writer, feminine biohacker, and storyteller Rachel Plonka to the podcast. Together, they explore the connection between healing, self-expression, nervous system regulation, and the courage it takes to be truly seen.

Rachel shares her journey of helping people heal through writing and storytelling, and how that work ultimately led her to create The BioHacker's Blueprint, a program focused on nervous system regulation and how to access what she calls our "inner pharmacy." Through science, spirituality, and personal experience, she explains why so many people feel called to share their voice, tell their story, or step into something bigger, yet find themselves held back by fear, perfectionism, and nervous system resistance.

The conversation weaves through meditation, HeartMath, emotional healing, parenting, leadership, self-expression, and the responsibility that can come with stepping into authorship, authority, and purpose.

What begins as an interview evolves into a deeply personal conversation about healing old relationships with authority, trusting the process, and recognizing that growth is often less about arriving and more about continuing to show up.

Ultimately, this episode is a reminder that your voice matters, your story matters, and the world may need exactly what only you can offer.

• Finding and trusting your authentic voice
• Why nervous system regulation impacts self-expression
• The connection between healing and visibility
• HeartMath and the science of coherence
• Why resistance often appears when we need healing most
• Learning to orient toward positive emotions
• The difference between perfection and practice
• Understanding emotional highs and lows as part of growth
• How healing happens through repetition and consistency
• The concept of compound growth in personal development
• Parenting with emotional intelligence and awareness
• Leadership, authority, and egalitarian relationships
• The responsibility that comes with authorship and influence
• Rewriting old stories around power and authority
• Why the world needs your story and your voice

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Connect with Rachel:

Website: www.thecoherencestudio.co

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: www.facebook.com/RachelDickPlonka

Instagram: www.instagram.com/nursecoachrachel/

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device: https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program: https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership: https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

Mentioned in this episode:

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Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

What if the life you're chasing isn't somewhere in the future?

What if parts of it already exist right in front of you?

In this heartfelt conversation, Jillian and Meg explore the power of noticing the everyday blessings, opportunities, and experiences that often get overlooked while we're focused on what's next.

Jillian reflects on the dramatic shift her family has experienced while building Trellis and navigating a season of financial uncertainty. What initially felt like loss has become an unexpected invitation to appreciate things she once took for granted. A full tank of gas. A stocked refrigerator. Time with family. The simple gift of enough.

Meg shares stories from her own life that illustrate how easy it is to postpone joy until the next milestone, the next purchase, the next achievement, or the next version of life. Together, they challenge the assumption that fulfillment always exists somewhere ahead of us.

The conversation explores gratitude, abundance, financial stress, nervous system safety, perspective, and the practice of noticing what Meg calls "micro-miracles" throughout everyday life.

Ultimately, this episode is a reminder that while growth and ambition have their place, a meaningful life is often built by appreciating what already exists rather than constantly chasing what comes next.

• The difference between appreciation and achievement
• Why we often postpone joy until the next milestone
• Finding abundance during challenging seasons
• The concept of "micro-miracles"
• How perspective changes everyday experiences
• Gratitude as a practice rather than a feeling
• The relationship between financial stress and safety
• Appreciating what you already have
• Why the brain naturally focuses on what's missing
• Rewiring default patterns toward gratitude
• Finding fulfillment in ordinary moments
• The difference between "I have to" and "I get to"
• Building a gratitude practice that feels accessible
• Creating internal safety regardless of external circumstances
• Recognizing that many of today's realities were once yesterday's dreams

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

Mentioned in this episode:

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Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

What if two people can experience the exact same moment and walk away with completely different realities?

In this thoughtful conversation, Jillian and Meg explore the invisible lens through which we experience our lives. The stories, assumptions, conditioning, and patterns that quietly shape how we interpret the world around us.

Drawing from Jillian’s doctoral studies and their own personal experiences, they unpack the idea that reality is not simply what happens to us. It is also how we perceive, interpret, and respond to what happens.

Together, they explore the difference between intentional living and living from default patterns. They discuss how our brains are constantly scanning for meaning, creating stories, and reinforcing beliefs, often without our awareness.

The conversation moves through mindset, personal responsibility, presence, nervous system conditioning, and the power of slowing down long enough to question the stories we automatically tell ourselves.

Rather than advocating for toxic positivity, they invite listeners to become more conscious of the lens they are choosing and how small shifts in perspective can completely transform daily life.

Ultimately, this episode is a reminder that while we cannot control everything that happens around us, we do have influence over the lens through which we experience it.

• The concept of the lens we view life through
• How interpretation shapes our experience of reality
• The difference between default thinking and intentional thinking
• Why two people can experience the same situation differently
• Challenging assumptions, conditioning, and automatic stories
• The difference between perspective shifts and toxic positivity
• Taking ownership of your internal experience
• Giving people the benefit of the doubt
• Victimhood versus personal agency
• How slowing down changes perception
• The connection between presence and perspective
• Using the five senses to become more present
• Small mindset shifts that create major life changes
• Building new patterns and neural pathways
• Why slowing down can actually create more sustainable speed

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

The book Jillian referenced: You Are Here by Thich Nhat Hanh

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

Mentioned in this episode:

Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

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What happens when you spend your whole life trying not to be “too much”?

In this deeply personal conversation, Meg and Jill explore what it means to truly take up space. Not just through speaking louder or finding your voice, but through allowing yourself to exist fully without constantly shrinking, shape-shifting, apologizing, or compromising your needs to make other people comfortable.

Jillian opens up about realizing how often she erased herself in everyday moments. Always being agreeable. Never expressing preferences. Constantly minimizing her wants and needs in order to feel accepted, safe, or easy to be around.

Together, they unpack the deeper emotional roots behind people pleasing, masking, emotional self-protection, and the fear of not belonging.

Meg shares how she learned to stop adjusting herself to fit every room, while Jillian reflects on how childhood experiences slowly taught her to disconnect from her own personality and instincts in order to feel accepted by others.

The conversation moves through parenting, belonging, emotional safety, masking, sensitivity, and the exhausting experience of trying to make yourself digestible for everyone around you.

Ultimately, this episode becomes a reminder that true belonging is not built through fitting in. It’s built through being fully yourself and allowing the right people to meet you there.

• What “taking up space” actually means emotionally
• The subtle ways people erase themselves daily
• Constant compromising and over-accommodating others
• The emotional roots of people pleasing and masking
• Feeling “too much” versus feeling fully yourself
• Emotional sensitivity and fear of not being received
• How childhood experiences shape self-protection patterns
• The difference between fitting in and belonging
• Learning to stop shape-shifting for acceptance
• Parenting while honoring your own needs and capacity
• Overcommitting and saying yes to everything
• Reclaiming personal preferences, desires, and boundaries
• Feeling emotionally safe enough to be fully seen
• Why authenticity attracts deeper connection
• Learning to love and accept yourself without shrinking

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

• Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
• https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
• Self Mastery Program:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
• Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
• https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

Mentioned in this episode:

Fall Into Rest & Rejuvenation - October 2–4, 2026

https://www.profoundwellness.net/retreat

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