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In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the often overlooked root of micromanagement, not as a leadership flaw, but as a nervous system response.

What begins as a conversation about micromanagement in organizations expands into a deeper discussion about regulation, anxiety transmission, trust, and how a leader’s internal state directly shapes culture, performance, and psychological safety.

They unpack why pressure, manufactured urgency, and control are often attempts to self regulate, and how those behaviors unintentionally create fear, disengagement, and reduced effectiveness in teams. Rather than shaming leaders, this episode invites awareness, responsibility, and compassionate self inquiry.

We explore:

• Why micromanagement is a symptom of a dysregulated leader

• How a leader’s nervous system state transfers to their team

• The difference between regulation and control

• Why anxiety reduces creativity and performance

• How manufactured urgency creates counterproductive cultures

• Culture as regulation, not values statements

• Why values without nervous system alignment fail to land

• Awareness, non judgment, and responsibility as the path forward

• How leaders can model regulation instead of perfection

• The role of transparency and honest communication

• Agreements as a foundation for psychological safety

• Assuming positive intent as a

• Why autonomy and trust outperform micromanagement

• Hiring for roles instead of hours

• How operational clarity creates freedom and accountability

This episode is reflective, honest, and deeply relevant for leaders, founders, managers, and parents who want to lead with trust, calm, and integrity without sacrificing results.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Micromanagement is not the problem. It is the symptom.”

“Your nervous system teaches people how to feel around you.”

“Values do not set Culture. Regulation does.”

“Pressure does not improve performance. Safety does.”

“It is not your fault, and it is your responsibility.”

“Assuming positive intent changes everything.”

“You do not need control when there is clarity.”

“Leadership starts with self regulation.”

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In this episode, Meg and Jill explore ideal week schedules and time blocking, not as rigid productivity control, but as a way to preserve energy, reduce mental load, and create freedom in both work and life.

What begins as a practical conversation about scheduling unfolds into a deeper discussion about nervous system regulation, presence, creative flow, and the invisible weight of unclosed mental loops. They challenge the idea that structure limits creativity and instead offer structure as an act of self care and future self support.

Using the metaphor of budgeting, they explain how intentionally assigning time creates clarity, energetic boundaries, and space to actually live your life, rather than constantly reacting to it.

We explore:

• Time blocking as an energy budget rather than a productivity hack

• Why resistance to structure is often fear of losing autonomy

• How unclosed loops create somatic heaviness and burnout

• The importance of buffer time to synthesize and complete work

• Why back to back meetings drain more than we realize

• How structure can actually increase creativity and freedom

• The concept of designing an ideal week instead of chasing perfection

• Prioritizing non negotiables like rest, movement, and family time

• How energetic boundaries help separate work and personal roles

• Capturing creative ideas without letting them derail focus

• Why your previous self supporting your future self changes everything

• How intentional scheduling restores presence and reduces anxiety

This episode is grounding, practical, and especially supportive for entrepreneurs, creatives, leaders, and parents who feel overwhelmed, scattered, or run by their calendars instead of supported by them.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Structure is not about control. It is about conserving energy.”

“Your previous self is giving your future self a gift.”

“When you do not close the loop, your body carries the weight.”

“Back to back meetings leave no room for synthesis.”

“Structure does not kill creativity. It protects it.”

“You are either running your life, or your life is running you.”

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Meg’s Offerings

1. Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
2. https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
3. Self Mastery Program:
4. https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
5. Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
6. https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
7. Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
8. https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

Resources Mentioned:

1. Ideal Week Worksheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NUjfpxNv0Q09l-oJ6awy4gXlnJDGPHqx/view?usp=drive_link

In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the crucial distinction between empathy and compassion, especially in leadership and workplace dynamics. What many consider a strength can quietly lead to burnout, resentment, and disempowerment when left unchecked.

They unpack how empathy saturates the nervous system, while compassion creates clarity, boundaries, and true support. This conversation is especially relevant for leaders, managers, caregivers, and recovering people-pleasers.

They explore:

• Why empathy and compassion are not interchangeable

• How empathy leads to emotional saturation

• Compassion as care without carrying

• The difference between caregiving and caretaking

• How empathy can unintentionally disempower others

• Compassion as an empowerment tool

• Supporting employees without absorbing their struggles

• Asking better questions instead of making assumptions

• Leadership through belief and trust

• When empathy is appropriate and when it is not

• The tarp versus sponge metaphor

• Nervous system protection for leaders

• Sustainable emotional presence at work

This episode is practical, timely, and deeply supportive for anyone building teams or holding emotional space for others.

“Empathy is feeling with someone. Compassion is caring for them.”

“When you take it all on, you leave nothing for yourself.”

“Caretaking disempowers. Caregiving supports.”

“You can hold space without carrying weight.”

“Ask what they need instead of assuming.”

“Be a tarp, not a sponge.”

“Compassion protects everyone involved.”

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Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

1. Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
2. https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
3. Self Mastery Program:
4. https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
5. Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
6. https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

In this episode, Meg and Jill unpack two very different engines that drive productivity: fear and flow. While both can produce results, only one creates sustainability, fulfillment, and peace.

They reflect on hustle culture, nervous system conditioning, and the hidden cost of fear based success. Through personal stories, coaching insights, and real world business examples, they explore how productivity shifts when trust replaces urgency.

They explore:

• The difference between fear driven productivity and flow based productivity

• How hustle culture conditions the nervous system

• Physical symptoms of fear based work

• Why fear fueled success never feels like arrival

• Awareness as the first step to change

• The role of self judgment in keeping fear alive

• Non judgment as a bridge to empowerment

• Why conditional happiness never works

• Flow as a spiritual and creative experience

• How flow multiplies output with less effort

• Recognizing personal flow patterns

• Rituals that reliably activate flow

• Why presence with family fuels creativity

• How to build sustainable productivity practices

• Letting go of guilt around ease

This episode is clarifying and expansive. It is especially powerful for founders, leaders, creatives, and anyone questioning hustle as the price of success.

“Fear can get you there, but you will still be living in fear once you arrive.”

“Self judgment is fear in disguise.”

“When I slowed down, everything started working better.”

“Flow feels like magic because you are aligned.”

“You do not arrive at peace by delaying it.”

“The journey can be what you are chasing.”

“Flow is available more often than we think.”

Your reflections and lived experiences mean so much to us.

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Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

1. Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
2. https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
3. Self Mastery Program:
4. https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
5. Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
6. https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the powerful connection between physical clutter and mental noise. What begins as a conversation about cleaning and household systems unfolds into a deeper discussion about nervous system regulation, coherence, conscious choice, and how we reclaim our energy.

They reflect on how clutter impacts stress, family dynamics, productivity, and emotional wellbeing. The episode introduces the idea that while physical decluttering is helpful, true peace comes from learning how to declutter the mind regardless of the environment.

They explore:

• How physical clutter directly impacts mental and emotional regulation

• Why systems and habits in the home matter more than perfection

• The difference between control and structure

• How resentment builds when responsibility is unevenly carried

• The concept of being the default person in a household

• Why shared responsibility builds connection and frees up time

• How clutter creates invisible cognitive load

• HeartMath technology and the concept of coherence

• Restorative emotions versus depleting emotions

• How thoughts directly impact heart rhythm and nervous system state

• Why frustration keeps us stuck in depletion

• Conscious choice as the gateway to peace

• How to shift from reaction to agency

• Gratitude as a physiological reset

• Why you do not need external change to reclaim inner calm

This episode is grounding, reflective, and deeply practical. It is especially supportive if you feel overwhelmed, overstimulated, or stuck in cycles of frustration at home or work.

“Anything they do not do falls on me, and that weight adds up.”

“Physical noise becomes mental noise faster than we realize.”

“Crap on the counter is not a lion, even though our body reacts like it is.”

“Restorative emotions change your physiology in real time.”

“You always have a choice, even when you are frustrated.”

“Frustration is information, not a place to live.”

“You do not need anyone else on board to reclaim your peace.”

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

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Email: [email protected]

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

1. Heart Math BioFeedback Device:

https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg

1. Self Mastery Program:

https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program

1. Bold Beautiful Life Membership:

https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

In this episode, Meg and Jill get real about what it means to work in environments that are not fully aligned with your values, your energy, or your long-term direction. Not every workplace is conscious, healthy, or growth oriented. You still get to show up consciously, protect your inner peace, and make empowered decisions about whether to stay or leave.

They explore:

• Severing the identity string between who you are and how others treat you at work

• Seeing other people’s reactions as a reflection of them, not you

• How to maintain inner peace even when the environment feels chaotic

• How to offer compassion without abandoning yourself

• When mismatches are workable and when it is time for a hard no

• How to set loving and firm boundaries that stop cycles of disrespect

• The moment Meg confronted a charge nurse and how it instantly shifted the dynamic

• Why complaining to coworkers harms you and the culture

• What it means to stop perpetuating dysfunction

• Journaling, clarity exercises, and reflection practices to help you decide what is next

• The difference between misalignment and abuse

• How to evaluate whether you are meant to stay, reposition, or leave entirely

• The quiet heartbreak of pouring your genius into someone else’s vision

• Signs that it may be time to explore your purpose, your path, and your own expression of work

This episode is grounding, practical, and clarifying. It is especially helpful if you are in the gray zone of asking yourself whether to stay or go.

“I am safe everywhere I go. When you believe that, you get to act from integrity instead of fear.”

“Other people’s reactions are about their nervous system, not your worth.”

“If you do not speak up, you are unintentionally keeping the unhealthy dynamic alive.”

“Compassion does not require you to carry someone else’s emotional load.”

“Misalignment does not mean someone is wrong. It may just mean it is not your environment anymore.”

“When you stay in a place that drains you, you start to perpetuate the very things you wish would change.”

“Sometimes leaving is the most loving thing you can do for yourself and for the culture.”

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

Connect with Meg

Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

1. Self Mastery Program: profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
2. Bold Beautiful Life Membership: https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

In this honest and validating episode, Jillian and Meg explore what it means to work inside systems that are not always well, conscious, or emotionally healthy. Not every workplace is built with emotional intelligence, self-awareness, or supportive leadership, yet many people still find themselves needing to show up, perform, and stay grounded.

This conversation is a guide for navigating those environments without losing yourself. Jill and Meg unpack how to maintain integrity, energy, and boundaries, while also discerning when a job can be navigated with rooted professionalism and when it might truly be time to go.

• Why the fantasy of a fully aligned, fully conscious workplace often sets us up for disappointment
• How to differentiate between normal workplace challenges and truly unhealthy environments
• The grounding truth from Gallup: only 23 percent of employees worldwide feel meaningfully engaged

• How to tell when you’re checked out versus wisely protecting your nervous system
• Why your energy naturally adapts in environments that lack emotional intelligence
• Why disengagement is often a sign of deeper wisdom, not apathy

• Research showing that mood spreads quickly through teams
• How one person’s unmanaged stress or hostility affects an entire environment
• Why boundaries and emotional awareness are essential for protecting your own experience

Burnout as a Systemic Issue

• The World Health Organization defines burnout as a workplace problem, not a personal flaw
• Why you can be doing your absolute best in a broken system and still feel depleted
• Jill shares how operational load affects human behavior and why Trellis exists to relieve that burden

• Practicing “detached concern”: caring deeply without self-abandonment
• Research from healthcare and caregiving showing lower burnout when professionals have healthy emotional boundaries
• Meg’s insights on holding empathy without over-identifying or being consumed

• Studies on role detachment: why separating your identity from your job increases resilience
• Understanding the difference between what you do and who you are
• How identity detachment protects your joy and prevents burnout in unwell systems

• Most workplaces are not emotionally aware
• And that has nothing to do with your worth or your performance.
• Your job does not define you
• A healthy separation makes you stronger, clearer, and more resilient.
• Boundaries are professionalism
• Caring deeply does not require sacrificing yourself.
• Burnout is not your fault
• Often it reflects systemic issues outside your control.
• Staying or leaving is a conscious choice
• Both are valid when done from clarity, not fear.

• What needs to be true for you to stay?
• What is a hard limit or boundary that protects your wellbeing?
• If that boundary is crossed, what plan would you put in motion to leave?

Amy Porterfield — “Two Weeks Notice”

A guide for planning a transition with intention and empowerment.

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In this reflective and grounding episode, Jillian and Meg explore the quiet spaces in life — the waiting, the boredom, the in-between moments that most of us rush past. From long afternoons at kids’ sporting events to everyday pauses that feel unproductive, they reframe these “empty” moments as invitations to presence, creativity, and deeper connection.

This conversation is an anchor for anyone feeling overstimulated or constantly in motion. Instead of dismissing downtime as inconvenient or boring, Meg and Jill show how these pauses can become sacred places of renewal, imagination, and emotional regulation.

What We Explore

The Psychology of Boredom

• Why our brains crave stimulation and struggle with quiet
• How boredom activates the brain’s default mode network, which fuels creativity, idea generation, and deeper reflection
• The surprising study: people who completed a boring task became more creative afterward

Stillness as a Path to Creativity

• How “dead time” can become “depth time”
• Why letting yourself be bored is one of the most powerful things you can do for your imagination
• How Meg encourages her kids with “Being bored is good for you — go get creative”

Honoring Our Nervous Systems

• Our bodies were not designed for constant input
• How overstimulation keeps us in low-level stress
• Why slow, unfilled moments allow the parasympathetic nervous system to support healing, digestion, and emotional balance

Attention Restoration Theory

• How low-demand environments like nature or repetitive tasks restore cognitive bandwidth
• Why your brain “comes back online” when you stop trying to be productive

Boredom as a Mirror

• Kierkegaard’s belief that boredom exposes the parts of ourselves we avoid
• How quiet moments bring up emotions, unmet needs, and inner truths
• Jill’s question for listeners: Are you comfortable with yourself in the quiet? What does it reveal?

Connection Through Slowness

• How shared downtime increases belonging
• The subtle intimacy of sitting, waiting, observing, and being present with others
• How the mundane moments often hold the most honest togetherness

• Boredom sparks creativity
• Your mind begins connecting dots you didn’t know were there.
• Stillness supports your nervous system
• Quiet time helps your body process stress and return to balance.
• The mundane holds meaning
• Those bleacher hours and slow afternoons can be sacred.
• The in-between matters
• Depth, imagination, and connection grow when life is not filled to the brim.
• Slowness is not a problem to fix
• It is a rhythm to honor.

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If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave a review, or reach out to us individually.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

Connect with Meg:

Website: profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

In this playful and insightful episode, Jillian and Meg dive into the world of personality tests and how understanding yourself can become a powerful tool in both life and work. From CliftonStrengths to 16 Personalities, DISC, Enneagram, and even a touch of Human Design, this conversation explores how these frameworks can reflect our tendencies, illuminate our strengths, and reveal blind spots we may otherwise miss.

This episode is not about boxing anyone in. It is about awareness, permission, and stepping into the truest version of yourself.

CliftonStrengths

Jill shares her top strengths of connection, positivity, empathy, developer, and strategic, and how reading them felt like being deeply understood. She and Meg unpack how strengths evolve over time and how they show up differently in entrepreneurship.

Why Self Awareness Matters

Both hosts reflect on how understanding their own thinking, tendencies, and energy patterns directly impacts their confidence, teamwork, and leadership.

16 Personalities Results

Both Jill and Meg surprisingly (or not surprisingly!) score as ENFJ-A the protagonist. They explore what each trait actually means in plain language and how this profile aligns with their work on the podcast and in their careers. They discuss assertiveness, judging, empathy, and the difference between being emotional and being emotionally stable.

Human Design Insights

Both are Manifesting Generators. Jill and Meg unpack what it means to follow what lights you up, pivot quickly, and make decisions after riding an emotional wave. They explore how this framework can remove shame about how they naturally work and create.

DISC Assessment

They compare their different DISC profiles and talk candidly about what it means to embrace traits like dominance, steadiness, influence, and support. A powerful breakthrough occurs around Jill owning her assertiveness and dominance as strengths rather than liabilities.

Enneagram Preview

Meg shares how her Enneagram type shifts under stress and health and how this mirrors the concept of default patterns. Jill gets excited to dig into this more in a future episode.

Awareness creates choice

When you understand your tendencies, you can direct them instead of reacting from them.

Your strengths are not random

They show up everywhere. In how you think. How you communicate. How you lead. How you create.

Blind spots are not weaknesses

They are simply places to seek support or delegate, not parts of yourself to judge.

Your natural rhythm is valid

Whether you work in creative bursts, need simmer time to make decisions, or pivot fast, you are not broken.

Language matters

Words like dominant or bossy may carry old meaning, but they can also be powerful traits when reframed.

No one fits in a box

These tools are simply mirrors. Not definitions.

We would love to connect with you.

Your reflections, questions, and ah ha moments mean so much to us. If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave us a review, or connect with us individually.

In this playful and insightful episode, Jillian and Meg dive into the world of personality tests and how understanding yourself can become a powerful tool in both life and work. From CliftonStrengths to 16 Personalities, DISC, Enneagram, and even a touch of Human Design, this conversation explores how these frameworks can reflect our tendencies, illuminate our strengths, and reveal blind spots we may otherwise miss.

This episode is not about boxing anyone in. It is about awareness, permission, and stepping into the truest version of yourself.

CliftonStrengths

Jill shares her top strengths of connection, positivity, empathy, developer, and strategic, and how reading them felt like being deeply understood. She and Meg unpack how strengths evolve over time and how they show up differently in entrepreneurship.

Why Self Awareness Matters

Both hosts reflect on how understanding their own thinking, tendencies, and energy patterns directly impacts their confidence, teamwork, and leadership.

16 Personalities Results

Both Jill and Meg surprisingly (or not surprisingly!) score as ENFJ-A the protagonist. They explore what each trait actually means in plain language and how this profile aligns with their work on the podcast and in their careers. They discuss assertiveness, judging, empathy, and the difference between being emotional and being emotionally stable.

Human Design Insights

Both are Manifesting Generators. Jill and Meg unpack what it means to follow what lights you up, pivot quickly, and make decisions after riding an emotional wave. They explore how this framework can remove shame about how they naturally work and create.

DISC Assessment

They compare their different DISC profiles and talk candidly about what it means to embrace traits like dominance, steadiness, influence, and support. A powerful breakthrough occurs around Jill owning her assertiveness and dominance as strengths rather than liabilities.

Enneagram Preview

Meg shares how her Enneagram type shifts under stress and health and how this mirrors the concept of default patterns. Jill gets excited to dig into this more in a future episode.

Awareness creates choice

When you understand your tendencies, you can direct them instead of reacting from them.

Your strengths are not random

They show up everywhere. In how you think. How you communicate. How you lead. How you create.

Blind spots are not weaknesses

They are simply places to seek support or delegate, not parts of yourself to judge.

Your natural rhythm is valid

Whether you work in creative bursts, need simmer time to make decisions, or pivot fast, you are not broken.

Language matters

Words like dominant or bossy may carry old meaning, but they can also be powerful traits when reframed.

No one fits in a box

These tools are simply mirrors. Not definitions.

We would love to connect with you.

Your reflections, questions, and ah ha moments mean so much to us. If this episode resonates, please share it with a friend, leave us a review, or connect with us individually.

Connect with Jillian

Website: https://trellissuite.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: [email protected]

Connect with Meg

Website: profoundwellness.net

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Links Mentioned in Podcast:

Self Mastery Program:

profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program

Bold Beautiful Life Membership:

https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

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