Everything about this episode is deliciously great!  The producers are wild! There was a trip to Cleveland, an unexpected concert by an unexpected ex-boyfriend, a girl who was sent home, came back, and got to stay, there was a football game that didn't matter, and everyone is mad, not at each other, but at The Bachelor, himself! It was enjoyable!  Martin and Jenny dissect it all while also going through their normal breakdowns! It's all a good time!

Who's fake? Who isn't fake? It's hard to tell, in this episode,  Jenny and Martin dive into fake drama of Sydney and Alayah, and also the continuation of the dumb drama between Kelsey and Hannah Ann.  Besides from that drama, we question how country Peter is, praise how sweet Victoria P is, and love some pillow fights! Also, shout out to Fred Willard! On an additional note, there were no meltdowns from either hosts, except Martin at the end, however, it was well-intention constructive criticism.  This was the best episode of The Bachelor this season and the best episode of this podcast yet!

There was so much drama this episode!  Did Hannah stay? Then some fuss over champagne that evolved into something way bigger! There was a runway walk too!  Martin and Jenny had their personal drama as they watched the show.  It was very fitting for tonight's episode.

On the premiere episode this season of The Bachelor, it was three hours too long, we learned a lot though! Flying is Peter's personality, 31 is too old for The Bachelor, no one has a dry season of humor, Hanna is acting a way any girl would, and we are staying up too late to do this! It is a good episode with more to come!

Hey Bachelor Nation, we are the new Bachelor Podcast, Rose' and Thorns.   Here's a trailer what about to expect from our show! It's a podcast about the Bachelor franchise for all, whether you love it or hate it, and it's always over a glass of wine! Listen to hear what we have to offer and then come back after the first episode of The Bachelor this season for our first episode too!  See you soon!