Roughing the Pastor

Episode 62: The Theology of Mover Scott

Wherein Them Pastors are joined by super special guest, Scott Durbin of the Imagination Movers!  We talk with Scott about what it’s like to start up a children’s show and band and how that became a true calling to teach kindness and curiosity to young people.  Along the way, we talk about Scott’s experience growing up as the son of a pastor who was a hospital chaplain, why Mover Scott is a variation on Will Ferrell, how great music doesn’t have to be limited to a certain age, the importance of Mister Rogers, how fortune cookies can preach the best sermons, and why Daredevil is such a great super hero.

And we don’t talk about Fight Club.

“Failure is part of the process,; failure informs future decisions and future actions.”

[Stick around after the outro for some bonus Movers questions and a special treat from J.]

Episode 61: The Theology of Finding Yourself

Wherein Them Pastors are joined once again by friend of the show Jimmy Dykstra to talk about Jimmy’s two month road trip, and why the mystique of going on a journey to find yourself resonates so much.  Along the way there’s talk of who Jimmy is really named after (hint, it’s a pirate and a boss), what Jesus was actually writing in the sand, and the power of a well placed pop song from the mid-90s when you don’t have the emotional bandwidth to process an overwhelming experience.

“The aloneliness of it should not be underestimated.”

Episode 60: The Theology of Sentimentality

Wherein Them Pastors are joined by the Rev. Dr. Carl Anderson to talk about the trials and travails of sentimentality in the church.  Along the way there’s talk of Michael Jordan, milk in paper bags, J’s fateful meetings with Mario Lemieux, Tyler’s brain rebooting because he can’t remember a movie, youth group games named after Carl, and marathoning as a way of being the church.

“I find it fascinating to watch ESPN try to talk about anything when there’s no sports.”

Episode 59: The Theology of Heaven & Hell (Two Perspectives)

Wherein Them Pastors go into a vacuum to each give you their perspectives on heaven and hell.  Along the way, they talk about the best movie trailers to the worst movies, the best sport to watch (that isn’t one of the big five), and how J is reverting back to his IUP days in the midst of this quarantine.

“God doesn’t send people to Hell.”

Episode 58: The Theology of Vinyl Records

Wherein Them Pastors dive into their record collections to opine on the experience that vinyl brings that requires slowing down and being present in a way that we don’t often make space for.  Along the way there’s talk of Tyler getting sick in the midst of the quarantine, getting stuck in elevators with a whole pot of coffee, and why driving a van filled with sleeping people is the worst. 

“This record has a time - this record is best played in the morning…”

Episode 57: The Theology of Prayer

Wherein Them Pastors talk about the beautiful,  confusing, and often difficult practice of prayer.  Along the way, they talk about how the Imagination Movers and The Leftovers are getting us through the quarantine, the dream of owning a dolphin or a polar bear, what the TikTok algorithm tells you about yourself, and the guilt of non-essential Amazon purchases.

“…a parrot just might be a jerk you have to take care of for the rest of your life.”

Episode 56: The Theology of Knives Out

Wherein Them Pastors split up and Tyler is joined by Pre-Dr. Rachel Jones to have a spoiler talk on the movie brilliant 2019 movie Knives Out.  But first, J & Tyler have a robust conversation about movies they saw that they were too young for at the time, and try on a few new rapid fire questions for future guests.  There’s also some residual enneagram talk, and more Chris Kattan mentions than you would expect.

SPOILERS BEGIN AT 26 MINUTES IN!

“I don’t know if you’ve heard this, but newsflash everybody: the knives are not in anymore - the knives are out.”

Episode 55: The Theology of The Enneagram

Wherein Them Pastors are finally joined by the Rev. Brian Wallace, Enneagramist extraordinaire for a full fledged breakdown of the Enneagram.  Along the way, you get a robust dissection of what makes good hot wings, Tyler’s refusal to accept that Toy Story could be considered a Disney movie, and a thorough bonus break down of the Myers-Briggs.  84 minutes of infotainment brought to you in spite of a global pandemic and a poor internet connection.

“I’m about to throw my computer against the wall.”

Episode 54: The Theology of Twins

Wherein Them Pastors are joined by two separate guests.  First, Jay Peffer joins them to talk about high school band, theater kids’ traditions, and how the Rockin’ Roller Coaster at Disney World marks one of the last gasps of rock and roll.  Then, Justin Manon sneaks in through the air ducts to talk with J about fostering, adoption, and what it’s like to be a parent to twins.

“There’s a unique chaos that exists in the parenting of twins that you almost have to live it to experience it.”

Episode 53: The Theology of Social Distancing

Wherein Them Pastors kick off season 2 of the podcast in the midst of a global pandemic and sheltering at home.  They look at what Social Distancing means for us, as well talking about shameful eating, the weirdness of doing church remotely, emulating Ben Gibbard, cheating at NBA 2K20, and why living in the exile isn’t aways such a bad thing.  The episode concludes with contributions from several guests letting us know what community looks like even when we are in isolation.

“This cup represents the bottom of the pot, and it’s only 1pm.  My heart’s going to explode!”

[Corrected]