The Athletic's Ben Standig is talking about the Commanders lining up second interviews with head-coach candidates, CEO vs play-caller, Lions OC Ben Johnson's presence, and more with the Washington Post's Nicki Jhabvala. Also, thoughts on Ron Rivera's job interview with the Eagles and lessons learned from the Chiefs beyond Patrick Mahomes's awesomeness. (FWIW, we recorded before the Titans hired Brian Callahan as their next HC.)

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