Rowing in Color

Rowing in Color

By Denise Aquino & Patricia DestineSports
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Rowing in Color episodes

  • How to Respond to Rowing Related Microaggressions (and How to Be an Ally) with Jorlui Sillau

    #042 - Jorlui Sillau is a mental health professional based in New York City with experience rowing through a veterans rowing program.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • How can we better respond to microaggressions [6:51] 
    • Ask clarifying questions (and why) [8:00] 
    • An example of how to respond [11:49] 
    • Nonverbal microaggressions [15:00]
    • Fear of Retaliation [17:26]
    • Trauma [18:50]
    • Powerlesness [25:38] 
    • Is there a time limit to respond to microaggressions?
    • What recorded videos of erging have to do with this 

    … and much more.


    To get in touch with Jorlui, please email him at [email protected] 


    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    47 min
  • Jennifer Fitz-Roy: Rowers with Disabilities Are Not Going Anywhere, Katherine Valdez Guest Hosts

    #041 - Jennifer Fitz-Roy is a black PR2 rower at the Community Rowing, which is also the USRowing Para Training Center.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • What PR2 means and what classifications of pararowing there are [2:18]
    • How she got into rowing [9:02] 
    • The one person who convinced her she didn’t belong in the sport [15:15]
    • Race [ ]
    • Colorism [ ]
    • Advice to younger rowers of color or younger rowers with a disability [ ]

    … and much more.

    To get in touch with Jen, please reach her   on Instagram @fitzroyj


    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    44 min
  • Michael D. Green: Subjectivity and Unpacking Inequities in Rowing

    #040 - Michael D. Green is of Jamaican descent and a Senior heavyweight rower at Dartmouth College. 

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • How he got into rowing [4:18]
    • His thoughts on authenticity [13:22] 
    • Michael’s insight on access-related inequities as a result of program cuts on diversity within rowing [16:32]
    • Advice for younger rowers of color [21:04]
    • Code switching [24:45]
    • Advice for coaches to understand social issues about race [30:28]
    • Ever feeling like the go-to race person for his rowing team [34:42]
    • The biggest takeaway for YOU, the listener [43:00]

    … and much more.

    To get in touch with Michael, please reach him on Instagram @michael_d_green or on Twitter @thoughts_by_mdg 

    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    48 min
  • Beata Coloyan & Jasmine Howard: How They Built a Diverse and Competitive Public School Girls Rowing Program at Boston Latin School

    #039 - Beata Coloyan and Jasmine Howard coached the Boston Latin School Rowing team to a nationally competitive public school team. As coaches of color themselves, both have worked to make the teams’ demographic make up match the percentage of students of color at the school.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • How have various experiences impacted you are a coach? [ ]
    • Describe your work with the Boston Latin Rowing team and making it more accessible.
    • Describe the racial makeup of your coaches [56:55]
    • Do you think there’s something women of color can do to invite more women of color to be coaches? [1:05:00] 
    • Given their legal and political backgrounds, are their thoughts on politics in rowing? [1:11:39]
    • What are your next goals for your team and for yourself? [1:18:15]

    … and much more.

    To get in touch with Jasmine or Beata, please reach them at [email protected]

    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    1 hr 26 min
  • Diego Baugh: Stanford Senior Shares Thoughts on Program Cut & Advice for Coaches

    #038 - Diego Baugh is a Senior on the Stanford Men’s Rowing Team and alumn of Saugatuck Rowing Club.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • How Diego got into rowing [4:13]
    • What Diego brought up that has never been brought up before on the Rowing in Color podcast [9:50]
    • Times he witnessed racism in rowing [13:07]
    • How have coaches addressed instances of racism in general? [16:0 3] 
    • Thoughts on recruiting and inclusion [23:30]
    • His reaction to the Stanford program being cut [25:30]
    • Advice for a coach who wants to recruit an athlete of color [32:07]
    • A success story! [38:06]

    … and much more.

    To get in touch with Diego, please reach him on Instagram @diegobaugh or [email protected]


    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    45 min
  • Kyley Jones: "Being Here is Enough"

    #037 - Kyley Jones is a black rower who just finished a 7-year rowing career rowing at UC San Diego. She shares powerful insight on inclusion, intersectionality, and community through her anthropological lens. With mere days before the 2020 election and days just following another murder of a black man, her words are what we need to hear right now.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • How Kyley started rowing [ ]
    • What advice she would give to other young rowers transitioning from high school rowing to collegiate rowing [ ] 
    • What Kyley meant when she said “…” [ ]
    • “Diversity Without Inclusion is Exclusion” [ ]
    • “Whitewashed” [ ]
    • What teams should do when one of their teammates is called the n-word

    … and much more.



    To get in touch with Kyley, please reach her on Instagram @joneskyley


    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    42 min
  • Eva Walker-Outlaw: African American Breast Cancer Survivor Highlights Experience with Rowing

    #036 - Eva Walker Outlaw is a breast cancer survivor and African American rower at an organization called Recovery on Water.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • Eva’s diagnosis [2:26]
    • When Recover on Water came into her life [28:12]
    • Benefits of rowing [30:32]
    • Her experience with subtle racist moments in rowing [31:22]
    • Another reason why visibility is important in rowing [38:01]
    • What advice she would give to those recently diagnosed with cancer and those who are just seeing themselves in the sport [47:03]

    … and much more.


    To get in touch with Eva, please reach her on Instagram @nd_sometimes or via email at [email protected]

    To learn more about Recover on Water, visit www.recoveryonwater.org or find them on Instagram @recoveryonwater


    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    57 min
  • Latinx Rowers Speak Out, Part 1

    #035 - During Latinx/Hispanic Heritage Month we invited many members to join for a group conversations relating to the Latinx/Hispanic-American rowing experience. This is one of those conversations.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • How they got into the sport 
    • How language has played a part in the boathouse
    • Code switching
    • Giving away your own culture in order to fit in [1:04:48]
    • Why rowing is perceived as a white sport [1:15:46]
    • What we’re doing wrong [1:36:40]

    … and much more.


    To get in touch with Katherine, please reach her on Instagram @katvaldez72

    To get in touch with Luis Prado, please reach him on Instagram @hellriser1100

    To get in touch with Miguel Gonzalez, please reach him on Instagram @onemigzy

    To get in touch with Ángela, please reach her on Instagram @angelaoriach

    To get in touch with Estefani, please reach her on Instagram @fefeayres

    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    1 hr 58 min
  • Hannah Diaz: Peruvian American Coxswain Shares Recruitment Tips for Coxswains and Coaches

    #034 - Hannah Diaz is a Peruvian American coxswain and the only recruited person of color on the openweight women’s team at Princeton University.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • Advice for high school coxswains who are aspiring to be recruited for college [4:12]
    • Hannah’s flex [12:35]
    • Her experience as a biracial person [13:12] 
    • What a non-Spanish speaking person may *unintentionally* do that might make someone feel awkward [22:10] 
    • What it meant to be surrounded by other coxswains of color [33:22]
    • What advice she would give to coxswains [36:07]
    • One lasting message for coxswains [40:52]   

    … and much more.

    To get in touch with Hannah, please reach her on Instagram @hannahhdiaz 



    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    43 min
  • Camila and Isa Shana Darvin: What Does a Latina Rower Look Like?

    #033 - Camila and Isa Shana Darvin are both sisters and rowers for the University of Wisconsin. Camila is a Freshman rower on the lightweight women’s team while Isa is a Senior on the openweight women’s team.

    In this episode, we talked about:

    • What hooked them into rowing [6:09]
    • Experiences being Latina on a collegiate rowing team [9:17]
    • Moments of not feeling belong in rowing [13:07]
    • Steps being taken (and obstacles in the way) to move the conversation forward [16:49]
    • An example of barrier to access within rowing during COVID [23:38] 
    • Advice for coaches on how to promote inclusivity [30:34]
    • More advice [35:29]
    • Advice for younger Latina rowers [44:08]
    • What does a Latina look like [46:42]

    … and much more.

    To get in touch with Camila, please reach her on Instagram @camila.darvin 

    To get in touch with Isa, please reach her on Instagram @isadarvin 



    We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.

    If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.

    Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.

    We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.

    56 min

About Rowing in Color

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Denise Aquino and Patricia Destine are two women of color who are dedicated to promoting diversity within the sport of rowing. Both are former rowers turned coxswains turned coaches in the sport.…