This week on the Messy in the Middle podcast, Jefi and Ed speak with Royce Branning, co-founder of ClearSpace. Royce joins the hosts to discuss the impact of phone addiction and how his app helps users regain control of their digital lives. They explore the role of dopamine in driving addictive behaviors and the need for intentional use of technology. Royce shares his journey of starting the company and the importance of serving others. The conversation also touches on the challenges faced by real estate agents in managing their phone usage and the potential benefits of using ClearSpace in the industry.

QUOTES

• "There is a war for your attention and you're bringing a knife to a gunfight and we're kind of arming you with at least equitable defense mechanisms.” -Royce Branning [04:43]

• "I think phone addiction is a really helpful term for us to understand the forces at play in our relationship with the devices." -Royce Branning [20:23]

TIMESTAMPS

03:16 Royce’s Intro

04:06 What is ClearSpace?

15:22 Growing awareness of the negative impact of devices

21:40 Dopamine and scrolling

30:47 Content creators struggle with phone distractions

43:44 The impact of ClearSpace app

RESOURCES

• ClearSpace
• Never Split the Difference
• The Five Dysfunctions of a Team
• The Peak Experience
• The U.S. Housing Market Has Peaked
• Why Rising Mortgage Rates Push Buyers off the Fence
• The One Thing Every Homeowner Needs To Know About a Recession

CONTACT

Messy in the Middle: messyinthemiddlepodcast.com

Ed Billings: edbillings.com