Craig is back! Today, he welcomes fellow podcaster Colin Gray back to the podcast. They dive into the ever-evolving world of podcasting, reflecting on how much the landscape has shifted over the last decade and what people are craving now more than ever: genuine human connection. From the tug-of-war between YouTube and podcast growth, to what it really means to build an AI-first product, they explore the trends shaping creators, customers, and the platforms that connect them.

How podcasting has changed over the last 10 years 

The more we’re pulled toward AI, the more we crave genuine connection

Is it easier to grow a YouTube channel or a podcast?

Content integration and becoming a centralized hub

Spotify’s role in the evolution of podcasting

Monetization: ads, donations, subscriptions, and more

Balancing and prioritizing feature requests

How AI is shaping customer expectations

How to make your product AI-first

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