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  • From Audience To Income

    What does it take to turn an audience into a business—and how do you do it without losing the enjoyment that got you started? This week on Rogue Startups, Craig and Colin compare notes on building creator businesses. Colin shares what he’s exploring after selling his business, including his golf content, sponsorship opportunities, and fractional roles. Craig talks about growing his YouTube channel toward 25,000 subscribers and building a second revenue stream through ads and brand partnerships.

    We dig into the gap between getting views and building a business: growing an email list, creating relevant lead magnets, nurturing subscribers, and developing your own products. We also explore how to find a clear coaching niche by combining your skills and experience—and why honest feedback from your team can help you focus on the work where you add the most value.

    Then we get practical about YouTube growth and podcast repurposing. We discuss strong premises, titles, thumbnails, and why the first minute deserves so much attention. We wrap up with how AI tools are changing content production and software businesses, including the opportunities—and uncomfortable questions—that come with automating work you once paid people to do. Fittingly, this episode includes an intro reflecting on using Codex and DaVinci Resolve to edit the conversation itself.

    Talking points:

    • Building a creator business without turning a hobby into a chore.
    • Monetizing through sponsorships, brand deals, and fractional roles.
    • Why smaller audiences can still be valuable to sponsors.
    • Turning podcast and YouTube audiences into newsletter subscribers.
    • Using lead magnets, segmentation, and your own products to build more predictable revenue.
    • Finding a coaching niche through a distinctive combination of skills.
    • Asking your team where you can contribute most effectively.
    • Giving each piece of content a clear job: views, subscribers, or revenue.
    • Creating stronger YouTube hooks, titles, thumbnails, and opening minutes.
    • Repurposing podcast conversations into standalone videos with custom intros.
    • Using AI to streamline editing, copywriting, and publishing.
    • How changing customer needs could reshape SaaS and service businesses.
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      57 min
    • RS368: Grok Bot & Hermes

      AI agents are getting a lot more capable, but are they actually making work easier yet? 

      Craig and Colin compare their latest experiments with GrokBot, Hermes, OpenClaw, Claude Code, Codex, and other AI tools, including what works, what breaks, and where agents are genuinely reducing cognitive load. 

      They dig into open vs. closed systems, shared company agents, local AI, model costs, and the idea of an AI chief of staff that keeps founders focused. 

      Plus, Colin shares how he's using AI to overhaul a 15-year-old WordPress site, and they explore what the next generation of AI-powered websites and marketing tools might look like.

      Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
      • Open vs. closed AI agents for running a business
      • Why Craig chose Hermes as Castos' shared company agent
      • The security challenge of giving AI agents real power
      • Why AI should reduce cognitive load, not create more work
      • How Colin uses AI for CRM, task management, and daily planning
      • Claude Code vs. Codex, Cursor, and other AI development tools
      • Why expensive AI models aren't always the best choice
      • The case for running AI locally or privately
      • How cheap AI access encourages founders to experiment
      • Can an AI chief of staff actually keep you focused?
      • Using AI to overhaul a 15-year-old content site
      • How tiny AI-built tools could replace traditional lead magnets
      • Resources and Links from This Episode:
        • Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/ 
        • The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/ 
        • Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk 
        • Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
        • Email me: [email protected] 
        • Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt 
        • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/ 
        • 51 min
        • RS367: How to Hire in the AI Era

          Do you need a team to build a successful company these days? On this episode of Rogue Startups, host Craig Hewitt (Castos) and co-host Colin Gray (Alitu and The Podcast Host) tackle one of the biggest questions facing founders today: how do you hire in the age of AI agents? 

          Craig and Colin chat about what an "ideal" team looks like, which roles are still worth hiring for, and which ones AI agents can take over (to save more important tasks for humans). They dig into how their own hiring processes have changed and evolved, from async video interviews to paid work samples and screen-recorded tasks. They also explain why a candidate's CV matters far less than watching them think through a problem.

          Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
          • Why you might still want a team, even if you don't need one
          • What a minimal modern software team looks like
          • What founders should never fully hand off
          • How AI agents are changing customer research
          • The best first hires for growth and partnerships
          • Why every hire should be an AI power user
          • How to spot great candidates beyond the CV
          • Using paid work samples and screen recordings in hiring
          • The hidden costs and risks of hiring overseas
          • Why EORs and Merchant of Record services can simplify global hiring and sales
          • When to hire a human vs. build an AI agent
          • The trade-offs of staying solo with AI vs. building a team
          • Resources and Links from This Episode:
            • Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/ 
            • The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/ 
            • Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk 
            • Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
            • Email me: [email protected] 
            • Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt 
            • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/  
            • 49 min
            • RS366: When (and how) To Pick a Co-Founder

              Should you build your next company alone, or find a co-founder?

              It's a question that has no easy answer, and AI is making it even more complicated. If one person can now build, market, and operate far more of a business with the help of AI, does having a co-founder still make sense?

              Today, Craig and co-host Colin Gray dig into the realities of being a solo founder versus building a company with a partner. They talk about the benefits of having another person to share the load, challenge your thinking, keep you accountable, and be completely honest about the business - along with the risks that come with tying yourself to someone for years.

              If you're a solo founder wondering whether you're missing something by going it alone (or maybe you're considering bringing someone into your business), this episode is for you.

              Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
              • Why having a co-founder can make the entrepreneurial journey dramatically less lonely
              • How AI is changing the traditional argument for having a co-founder
              • Why another brain in the business may be more valuable than another specific skill set
              • The role of accountability, honest feedback, and staying focused
              • What to consider before choosing a business partner
              • Why personality, communication style, and problem-solving approach matter so much
              • The importance of agreeing on what you actually want from the business
              • How equity splits can create problems when partners join at different stages
              • Options vs. profit sharing as ways to reward employees
              • How to build a leadership team that can eventually operate without the founder
              • The advantages of speed, flexibility, and control as a solo founder
              • Why AI may be making solo-founded companies more viable than ever
              • Resources and Links from This Episode:
                • Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/ 
                • Sam Paar blog post: https://joinhampton.com/blog/the-template-that-made-sure-my-co-founder-and-i-were-perfect-partners 
                • The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/ 
                • Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk 
                • Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
                • Email me: [email protected] 
                • Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
                  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/ 
                  • 42 min
                  • RS365: Marketing that Actually Works Today

                    What happens to marketing when AI can create almost unlimited content, build software in days, and make it easier than ever for anyone to compete?

                    In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt and co-host Colin Gray dig into what actually works in marketing today. They explore founder-led marketing, “personal brands” (and why that term makes Craig cringe), content strategy, YouTube, newsletters, podcasts, and the growing importance of creating content that carries a real human voice.

                    Craig and Colin debate whether blogging still matters, why YouTube may be the strongest starting point for a new brand, and why podcasts are better at building trust than converting cold audiences. They also discuss the marketing FOMO that causes founders to chase every new platform, the value of in-person events, and how to build a content flywheel where one conversation can become videos, newsletters, blog posts, and social content.

                    The conversation ultimately comes back to a simple question: when AI can produce endless content, what makes yours worth paying attention to? 

                    Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
                    • Why the best marketing ultimately has to create a return for the customer
                    • How founders can avoid getting trapped by marketing FOMO
                    • Why founder-led marketing may matter more as AI creates more faceless businesses
                    • How to figure out what makes you genuinely different
                    • Why YouTube may be the best starting point for building a modern personal brand
                    • Whether blogging and SEO still have a place in an AI-generated content world
                    • Why real stories, experiences, and opinions can make content stand out from AI-generated material
                    • How to turn one podcast conversation into a complete content ecosystem
                    • Why podcasts are better at building trust than converting cold audiences
                    • The underrated marketing power of in-person events and relationships
                    • How to build a YouTube and newsletter flywheel
                    • Why paid advertising could become more accessible through AI-powered tools
                    • Resources and Links from This Episode:
                      • Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/ 
                      • The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/ 
                      • Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk 
                      • Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
                      • Email me: [email protected] 
                      • Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt 
                      • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/ 
                      • 49 min
                      • RS364: Think Less, Do More

                        AI has made building software dramatically easier. But if everyone can build a product, what happens to SaaS?

                        In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt is joined by co-host Colin Gray for a wide-ranging conversation about what they're building, how AI is changing their businesses, and why the biggest challenge for SaaS founders may no longer be writing the code. Colin and Craig dig into AI-assisted development, content repurposing, YouTube strategy, AI agents, memory and context, and the increasingly blurry line between building a product and simply building something for yourself.

                        The conversation gets especially interesting as they compare tools like Cursor, Claude, Codex, Grok, OpenClaw, and Hermes, and discuss the idea of having an AI "boss" that can remember your priorities, surface old ideas, manage your tasks, and push information to you instead of making you constantly hunt for it.

                        Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
                        • How AI is making software dramatically easier to build - and why that creates a new challenge for SaaS founders
                        • Why AI tools become much more powerful when they're customized to your specific workflows
                        • Is "anyone can build this" becoming a real problem for SaaS companies?
                        • Why the hardest part of building software may no longer be writing the code
                        • The biggest risk of AI-built software: building something nobody actually wants
                        • How Craig and Colin are using AI agents to reduce cognitive load and manage their work
                        • Why your AI assistant may need access to your entire digital life to be genuinely useful
                        • Turning conversations and existing content into a repeatable publishing workflow
                        • Why sometimes a solo founder just needs an AI boss
                        • Why more features aren't always the answer for a growing SaaS business
                        • What should an AI assistant actually remember about you?
                        • How AI agents could change the way founders work, prioritize, and make decisions
                        • Resources and Links from This Episode:
                          • Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/ 
                          • The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/ 
                          • Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk 
                          • Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
                          • Email me: [email protected] 
                          • Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt 
                          • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/ 
                          • 49 min
                          • RS363: Why Talking to AI About Your Business Is Dangerous

                            While we weren’t looking, AI has quietly embedded itself into the coaching world. Today Craig sits down with new cohost Colin Gray, founder of Alitu and The Podcast Host, to unpack the current state of the industry.

                            They dig into why coaching is shifting from information delivery to accountability and thinking-partner work, how Colin built an AI system using Granola transcripts to track patterns across coaching clients and surface his own best ideas for content, and whether "everyone is a media company" still holds up for B2B, legal, and SaaS businesses that swear they're different. 

                            It's a candid, practical conversation about personal brand versus business brand, one-on-one versus group coaching, and using tools like Claude not to get answers but to get better questions - a must-listen for coaches, consultants, and any solo founder trying to figure out where human expertise still beats a chatbot. 

                            Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
                            • AI can't coach you. It can only answer you.
                            • The "how-to" business is dying, and courses are the first casualty.
                            • Why one podcaster treats Claude like a co-founder (and where that backfires).
                            • Coach or mentor? The real spectrum nobody talks about.
                            • Selling a podcast editing app for millions, then figuring out what's next.
                            • "Personal brand" is a dirty word. Here's the better way to think about it.
                            • The one B2B industry everyone assumes content can't touch (it can).
                            • Coaching's new job: not answers, accountability.
                            • One-on-one vs. group coaching: which one actually makes people feel heard.
                            • Turning client call transcripts into an AI memory system that spots patterns humans miss.
                            • Mining your own coaching sessions to find your most original ideas.
                            • Resources and Links from This Episode:
                              • Produced by Castos Productions 
                              • The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/ 
                              • Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk 
                              • Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
                              • Email me: [email protected] 
                              • Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt 
                              • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/  
                              • 33 min
                              • RS362: Hidden Multipliers with Jason Cohen

                                What happens when AI changes the rules of building a software company? According to Jason Cohen, the answer isn't to predict the future. It's to build around things that remain valuable no matter how technology changes.

                                In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt talks with Jason Cohen, founder of WP Engine and SmartBear and author of Hidden Multipliers, about growth, strategy, positioning, and building durable businesses in an age of AI. Jason explains why founders should focus on the transformation customers actually want instead of simply adding AI to their products, why repositioning a product can dramatically increase its value, and how to identify the special combination of strengths, customers, and opportunities where your business can win.

                                Craig and Jason also dig into what kinds of jobs AI is likely to replace, why human creativity and personality remain incredibly valuable, how Jason develops the ideas behind his writing, and why copying someone else's successful framework rarely works without adapting it to your own company culture.

                                Whether you're building a bootstrapped SaaS company, leading a growing startup, or trying to figure out where your business fits in an AI-driven world, this conversation is full of practical ways to think more clearly about strategy, growth, and competitive advantage.

                                Highlights from Craig and Jason’s conversation:
                                • How to make strategic decisions in an uncertain market
                                • What customers will still value in the age of AI
                                • Why AI should solve customer problems rather than simply be added to products
                                • How positioning can dramatically increase a product's value
                                • Why senior developers benefit more from AI than junior developers
                                • What chess teaches us about AI and human creativity
                                • Why human personalities still matter in content and marketing
                                • How Jason Cohen developed the ideas behind Hidden Multipliers
                                • Why copying successful business frameworks often fails
                                • How founders can find their own strategic advantage
                                • The right and wrong ways to use metrics
                                • What AI means for the future of SaaS
                                • Resources and Links from This Episode:
                                  • AI Skills which facilitate ideas from the book and Jason’s articles
                                  • https://longform.asmartbear.com/
                                  • Jason on X: https://x.com/asmartbear
                                  • hiddenmultipliers.com 
                                  • Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
                                  • Email me: [email protected] 
                                  • Find me on X: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
                                  • Craig on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/  
                                  • 51 min
                                  • RS361: Lessons Learned Selling A Business

                                    Selling a business isn't just about timing the market. It's about knowing yourself.

                                    In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt sits down with Colin Gray, founder of Alitu and The Podcast Host, to discuss what it's really like to sell a SaaS company after 15 years. Colin shares why he decided to exit, how founders should think about timing a sale, the emotional side of letting go of a business, and why "stair-stepping" through multiple businesses may be a smarter path than chasing a single life-changing exit. They also explore how AI is reshaping SaaS, content marketing, and YouTube, as well as what comes next after selling a company you've spent years building.

                                    Whether you're thinking about selling a business someday or simply trying to build one that lasts, this conversation is packed with honest advice from two experienced bootstrapped founders.

                                    Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
                                    • How to know when it's time to sell your business
                                    • The stair-step approach to building wealth
                                    • Founder burnout and losing passion for your company
                                    • The realities of SaaS valuations today
                                    • Why building an audience before software matters
                                    • AI's impact on SaaS and content marketing
                                    • Why YouTube is still one of the best marketing platforms
                                    • Life after selling a startup
                                    • Bootstrapping vs. venture-backed growth
                                    • Lessons from two experienced SaaS founders
                                    • Resources and Links from This Episode
                                      • The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/ 
                                      • Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk 
                                      • Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
                                      • Find me on Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt 
                                      • Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt 
                                      • LinkedIn: Craig Hewitt 
                                      • 47 min
                                      • RS360: Kill the Hippo

                                        If you're building a SaaS company, one of the hardest questions you'll face isn't how to build a product. It's what to build next.

                                        In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt talks with Steve McLeod, founder of Feature Upvote and author of Kill the Hippo, about product strategy, customer research, and why the loudest customer isn't always the one you should listen to. Steve shares lessons from interviewing successful bootstrapped SaaS founders, explains why talking directly with customers beats relying on surveys and feature voting alone, and discusses how companies can avoid building the wrong features.

                                        Craig and Steve also explore Steve's journey writing Kill the Hippo, Feature Upvote's successful pivot into the gaming industry, the realities of running a mature SaaS business, and how AI is changing product development and customer acquisition. They close with an honest conversation about the future of bootstrapped SaaS and why today's founders face a very different landscape than they did just a decade ago.

                                        Whether you're launching your first startup or leading an established software company, this episode is full of practical advice on product management, customer feedback, ideal customer profiles (ICP), founder decision-making, and sustainable SaaS growth.

                                        In this episode: 

                                        00:00 Why Building the Right Product Matters

                                        01:43 Why Steve Wrote Kill the Hippo

                                        03:09 The Pivot That Changed Feature Upvote

                                        04:36 Why the Most Popular Feature Is Usually Wrong

                                        06:26 Talk to Customers, Not Just Surveys

                                        08:19 Finding Your Real Ideal Customer

                                        13:05 How Kill the Hippo Came Together

                                        16:59 Why Steve Wanted to Write a Book

                                        19:04 The Reality of Being a Solo Founder

                                        21:06 Are Product Prioritization Frameworks Worth It?

                                        23:54 Hiring People Who Think Like Your Customers

                                        27:45 Building for Future Customers Without Losing Today's

                                        29:24 Product Strategy for Mature SaaS Companies

                                        31:26 Avoiding the "Abandoned Product" Trap

                                        34:00 How Mature SaaS Teams Ship New Features

                                        36:19 Build Features That Make Customers Say "Wow"

                                        38:20 Is SaaS Really Dead?

                                        42:35 The Golden Age of Bootstrapped SaaS

                                        Resources and Links:

                                        - Feature Upvote: https://featureupvote.com/  

                                        - Steve on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-mcleod-fuv/ 

                                        - Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools

                                        - Email me: [email protected] 

                                        - Find me on Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt

                                        - Craig on LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66  

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