Marketing Against The Grain

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  • How Marketers Can Make $20K/Month With Tiny Apps

    Build your own AI Business in 3 Hours with < $500: https://clickhubspot.com/jgwf

    Ep. 463

    There's never been a better time for marketers to become millionaires through a simple, actionable formula.

    Kieran dives into how a new generation of marketers can leverage AI, microbehaviors, and rapid prototyping to build and grow profitable businesses. Learn more on the 5-step microbehavior business formula, real-world examples of niche SaaS making $10K+ MRR, and why marketing and distribution—not building—are the new competitive moat in the AI era.

    Mentions

    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

    • Launch Fast https://launchfastlegacyx.com/

    • Cursor https://cursor.com/

    • Legacy X http://legacyxfba.com/

    • 1,000 True Fans https://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/

    • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

      Resource

      • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

      • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

        YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

        Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

        TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

        Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

        Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

        We really appreciate your support.

        Host Links:

        Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

        Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

        ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

        17 min
      • The Marketing Teams Of 2027 Will Look VERY Different...

        Get our playbook to redesign your marketing team for the AI era: https://clickhubspot.com/qwfl


        Ep. 462

        How different will your marketing team be in the age of AI?

        Kieran dives into how the evolution of marketing teams is being shaped by AI—and why your next hires may look nothing like yesterday’s marketers. Learn more on why every team needs a growth producer to create entertaining content that drives awareness, the game-changing role of an internet comedian to make your product shareable, and the tactical power of a creator dealmaker to turn creators into your greatest advocates.

        Mentions

        • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

        • Ramp https://ramp.com/

        • Alexandr Wang linkedin.com/in/alexandrwang

        • Muse https://ai.meta.com/muse/

        • Resource

          • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

          • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

            YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

            Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

            TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

            Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

            Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

            We really appreciate your support.

            Host Links:

            Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

            Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

            ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

            18 min
          • Marketing Experts Turn GrokBot Into an AI Content Team

            Build a Grok Bot content team w/ these 5 agent prompts + templates: https://clickhubspot.com/lwhf

            Ep. 461

            Can Grok Bot really build your whole content team in minutes?

            Kieran dives into how to harness Grok Bot and powerful AI tools to automate content creation, from idea generation to drafting, for any platform. Learn more on automating content team structures, leveraging Monit for unlimited API access, and optimizing AI models for each step of your content process.

            Mentions

            • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

            • Grok Bot http://x.ai/news/introducing-grok-bot

            • Claude https://claude.ai/

            • Codex https://openai.com/codex/

            • Opus 5.5 https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5

            • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

              Resource

              • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

              • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

                YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

                Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

                TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

                Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

                Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

                We really appreciate your support.

                Host Links:

                Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

                Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

                ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

                19 min
              • How to Turn Instagram Into a Sales Machine With Muse AI

                Free guide to automate your Instagram marketing with Muse AI: https://clickhubspot.com/dlvm

                Ep. 460

                “You don’t have a reach problem, you have a repeatability problem.”

                Kipp dives into why Meta’s new Muse assistant is the game-changing marketing tool you’re not using to grow your audience and drive revenue from Instagram. Learn more on unlocking deep audience intelligence, turning post engagement into sales opportunities, and building a magical marketing workflow that connects your content directly to customers.

                Mentions

                • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

                • Meta’s Muse https://ai.meta.com/muse/

                • Grok Bot http://x.ai/news/introducing-grok-bot

                • Nano Banana https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/

                • Apollo http://apollo.io/

                • Sabrina Ramonov Marketing Against the Grain episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OS4m5Kajt0

                • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

                  Resource

                  • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

                  • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

                    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

                    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

                    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

                    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

                    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

                    We really appreciate your support.

                    Host Links:

                    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

                    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

                    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

                    18 min
                  • We Tested What AI Personal Assistants Can Actually Do

                    Free guide: how to get AI to recommend your business https://clickhubspot.com/pwcl

                    Ep 459

                    Is your next website visitor an AI agent with a credit card? 

                    Kipp and Kieran dive into the explosive rise of personal AI agents and how they're making traditional marketing strategies obsolete. Learn more on how AI agents like Muse, Instinct, and Grokbot are changing the buying process, why marketers must adapt for a world where agents—not humans—are the main customers, and what new marketing strategies you need to stay ahead in the age of delegation.

                    Mentions

                    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

                    • Meta’s Muse https://ai.meta.com/muse/

                    • Instinct https://instinct.com/

                    • Grok Bot http://x.ai/news/introducing-grok-bot

                    • Claude https://claude.ai/

                    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

                    • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

                      Resource

                      • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

                      • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

                        YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

                        Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

                        TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

                        Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

                        Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

                        We really appreciate your support.

                        Host Links:

                        Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

                        Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

                        ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

                        37 min
                      • HubSpot Execs: What Marketing Teams Look Like in 2027

                        Get our free playbook to redesign your marketing team in 2027: https://clickhubspot.com/svoh

                        Ep. 458

                        Did you know that despite all the noise about shrinking marketing teams, data shows the proportion of marketing roles hasn’t really changed?

                        Kipp and Kieran dive into the future of marketing teams, why the shape—not the size—of your team is what really matters, and how you can thrive in the new landscape. Learn more on why marketing roles aren’t disappearing, how AI is reshaping teams (not replacing them), and why pod models and zero-to-one marketers are key to the next wave of marketing success.

                        Mentions

                        • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

                        • Claude https://claude.ai/

                        • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

                        • Codex https://openai.com/codex/

                        • Opus 5.5 https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5

                        • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

                          Resource

                          • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

                          • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

                            YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

                            Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

                            TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

                            Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

                            Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

                            We really appreciate your support.

                            Host Links:

                            Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

                            Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

                            ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

                            31 min
                          • Train Your AI to Write Like a Human With Just 3 Files

                            Free: make AI content sound like you (Prompts + 3 Files) https://clickhubspot.com/ilhf

                            Ep. 457

                            AI is now a pretty good content creator—and that’s actually a problem.

                            Kieran dives into why today’s wave of AI-generated content is flooding the internet with sameness, and what marketers can do to stand out from the noise. Learn more on building your own Creative Context OS in just three files, how to teach AI your unique perspective and taste, and the critical difference between content that’s truly “you” versus commodity work everyone else is churning out.

                            Mentions

                            • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

                            • Nicolas Cole, Commodity Content https://artandbiz.substack.com/p/the-right-way-to-write-with-ai

                            • Codex https://openai.com/codex/

                            • Dharmesh Shah linkedin.com/in/dharmesh

                            • Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind https://a.co/d/08UXJ6E1

                            • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

                              Resource

                              • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

                              • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

                                YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

                                Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

                                TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

                                Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

                                Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

                                We really appreciate your support.

                                Host Links:

                                Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

                                Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

                                ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

                                31 min
                              • How to Build an AI Marketing Team That Runs Itself (Live Demo)

                                (Free) Build your first marketing AI agent: https://clickhubspot.com/lwkf

                                Ep. 456

                                Is the CMO role dead in the age of AI-driven marketing?

                                Kipp, Kieran, and guest Cody Schneider (Cofounder of Graphed.com) dive into how AI agents are transforming the marketing landscape, slashing the cost of creative production, and reshaping marketing teams. Learn more on scaling content with AI agents, automating paid and organic campaigns, and how the new world of “marketing engineering” is making one person as effective as a team of twenty.

                                Mentions

                                • Cody Schneider https://www.youtube.com/@codyschneiderx

                                • Graphed https://www.graphed.com/

                                • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

                                • DaVinci Resolve https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

                                • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

                                  Resource

                                  • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

                                  • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

                                    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

                                    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

                                    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

                                    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

                                    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

                                    We really appreciate your support.

                                    Host Links:

                                    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

                                    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

                                    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

                                    30 min
                                  • Give Us 30 Minutes & We’ll Fix Your Marketing for 2027

                                    Build a taste profile that makes your AI output sound like you: https://clickhubspot.com/iflm

                                    Ep 455

                                    Did you know HubSpot lost 140 million visits in a year but still increased demand generation by 20%?

                                    Kipp and Kieran dive into why the old rules of marketing no longer work—and what new playbooks you need to win in the AI era, at HubSpot’s Unbound. Learn more on building a living taste profile, leveraging AI for relentless content creation, optimizing paid ads through creative experimentation, and turning rapid learning into your team's ultimate advantage.

                                    Mentions

                                    • Unbound https://unbound.hubspot.com/

                                    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

                                    • Yamini Rangan https://www.linkedin.com/in/yaminirangan/

                                    • Claude https://claude.ai/

                                    • Meta Advantage+ https://www.facebook.com/business/ads/meta-advantage-plus

                                    • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

                                      Resource

                                      • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

                                      • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

                                        YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

                                        Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

                                        TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

                                        Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

                                        Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

                                        We really appreciate your support.

                                        Host Links:

                                        Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

                                        Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

                                        ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

                                        28 min
                                      • Zero-Click Marketing: How to Win When Google Stops Sending Traffic

                                        Free: 15 prompts to keep your brand visible in search  https://clickhubspot.com/ikub

                                        Ep. 454

                                        Did you know that today, 68% of all Google searches end without a single click?

                                        Kipp, Kieran, and guest Amanda Natividad (founder of Zero Click Marketing, and co-author of the forthcoming book, Zero Click Marketing) dive into the era of zero-click marketing, covering how search behavior is changing, what it means for your company’s growth, and what you must do to thrive. Learn more on evolving beyond Google to meet your audience where they are, rethinking the purpose of SEO in a diversified search landscape, and building lasting value by focusing on the right audience—not just more traffic.

                                        Mentions

                                        • Amanda Natividad https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandanat/

                                        • Zero Click Marketing https://zeroclickmarketing.co/

                                        • Zero Click Marketing (book) https://www.damngravity.com/products/zero-click-marketing

                                        • SparkToro https://sparktoro.com/

                                        • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

                                        • Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

                                          Resource

                                          • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

                                          • We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

                                            YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod 

                                            Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

                                            TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

                                            Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

                                            Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

                                            We really appreciate your support.

                                            Host Links:

                                            Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

                                            Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

                                            ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

                                            35 min

                                          About Marketing Against The Grain

                                          From the publisher's feed

                                          Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered…

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