This week, Notes from Poland editor-at-large Stanley Bill talks with Poland's deputy foreign minister Paweł Jabłoński about controversies over rule of law in Poland and the ongoing conflict over the EU budget.

They discuss the multiple changes Poland's PiS-led ruling coalition has made to the judiciary, including the constitutional court and the judiciary council, as well as the proposal to tie rule of law conditionality to the EU budget and Poland's ensuing veto of the budget.

NOTE: In the discussion, reference is made to a PiS motion to the Constitutional Tribunal of 23 October 2015. Click here to download the document (in Polish). 

Producer: Sebastian Leśniewski

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