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Baroness Ruth Davidson (pictured) led the Scottish Conservatives between 2011 and 2019.

In the face of rising support for Nigel Farage’s Reform UK, she tells us why she is launching a new political movement.

Scotcast is the BBC’s Scottish news podcast. This episode is hosted by Martin Geissler.

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