‘Agility’ and ‘resilience’ are terms that are often used during processes of organisational change. Though, when one realises that an organisation is, in fact, nothing more than a big group of individuals working together, what do the words ‘agility’ and ‘resilience’ then mean for the individuals themselves? How can one become more agile and resilient within an organisation?

During this episode, Hugo Mutsaerts joins Yoy Bergs as a guest, to look at change from the individual’s perspective. For the record: to test Hugo’s agility and resilience, he had no insight or whatsoever into the questions Yoy had prepared. He shares his expertise and personal experiences to explore how one can become agile and resilient oneself when dealing with change, and what the importance is of connecting hearts, heads and hands when driving change as a group. They talk about power structures in organisations and about the advantages of experimenting and improvising. Also, Yoy and Hugo address the shortcomings of human experience and breaking out of dysfunctional patterns. Furthermore, they discuss the importance of trust and by default believing in good intentions of people.