In this episode, Rod shares a story about Nathaniel Branden and his book, the Six Pillars of Self-Esteem, and keeps a surprise at the end for Lesley. Rod and Lesley go over the six pillars and discuss how they are a good foundation for being able to make change happen. Listen to learn about practices that make up the six pillars. Lesley points out that the pillars interrelate and come together as a set of good advice. Now, where did Nathaniel Branden come from, who did he have relationships, and how did a libertarian theorist influence his thinking? You'll have to listen to find out.