In this episode, Rod and Lesley build on the conversation last week about Nathaniel Branden's Six Pillars of Self-Esteem.  As part of his work, Nathaniel Branden pioneered a technique to get people to think in baby steps. Rod puts Lesley on the spot with questions on how she can make her life 5% better.  From 5% improvements, Rod shares another book's idea of making change through tiny steps.  BJ Fogg's book 'Tiny Habits' gets some love for the great ideas on how to Lesley out of the house and walking three times a week.