In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about keeping up with the Joneses.  This is discussion is somewhat an extension of Episode 02 - The challenges of perfectionism.  This time, Rod and Lesley explore the topic through the light of comparisons we make of ourselves against others. It used to be that the grass was always greener, but now it is that the social media posts are always cooler.  

Lesley shares some great insights, so much so that towards the end you'll that Rod is totally stumped.  What could he say after Lesley lays down the best question of all time you could ask yourself to take the edge of feeling like on the wrong side of a comparison with a 'perfect' other.  

They finish the episode with reminding listeners to know that none of us have it all figured out, and one of the worst sources of feeling less than perfect is listening to self improvement podcasts that make it seem like there are a few easy steps to getting it all right.