In this episode I talk with Dr Holly Maples, a freelance theatre director, actor and cultural studies scholar, who has been creating immersive heritage performances in heritage sites across the UK. We talk about the parallels between immersive heritage performance and AR design as well as how the two can work together, a transdiscplinary work in the making that the two of us embarked on at the beginning of this year. Holly's current project is the UK tour of the ACE funded Breaking the Silence on the Slave Trade celebrating 18th century Black British abolitionists. The performance will tour in October 2021 to historic churches throughout the UK with close relationships to the slave trade.