This week Ian is joined by two women called Cat and the hosts of the Plumb Line Podcast and as well as constantly complementing each other on their podcasts,  they discuss Banter, Gilets, women's ministry and the motivation for podcasting.

You can find their podcast here https://theplumblinepodcast.buzzsprout.com

and you can follow them on Twitter and Facebook here

https://twitter.com/PlumbPodcast

https://www.facebook.com/ThePlumbLinePodcast/