What lessons are there to learn from the Covid-19 inquiry? How can bias in the media help us in church ministry? Is the UK becoming more secular?

In this episode, Phil Topham (Executive Director), Adrian Reynolds (Associate National Director), and John Stevens (National Director), discuss stories in the news from the past few weeks.

Show notes

• FIEC Leaders' Conference 2026 (fiec.org.uk)
• The Street Preacher’s Charter (christian.org.uk)
• Rising Lights 2026 (fiec.org.uk)
• Journeys 2026 (fiec.org.uk)
• COVID-19 report goes a long way to answering inquiry's critics (news.sky.com)
• What to Know About the Turmoil at the BBC (nytimes.com)
• Supreme Court rules Christian-focused RE taught in NI schools is unlawful (bbc.co.uk)

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00:00 - FIEC Leaders' Conference

07:32 - Lessons from the Covid-19 inquiry

19:02 - BBC bias, media trust, and corporate responsibility

27:56 - Religious education in Northern Ireland

34:35 - An Ashes winter

Christmas carols continue to be popular across Western culture. How can we make the most of music at Christmas to build up the church and to reach out to others?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director) is joined by Phil Moore (Cornerstone Church, Nottingham) and Keith Getty (hymn writer and musician) to explore why Christmas carols are so popular, how to prepare to sing at Christmas time, and which carols to choose.

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00:00 - Introduction

04:46 - Why is music at Christmas so popular?

10:16 - How do you choose which carols to sing?

15:41 - Go-to Christmas carols

18:32 - Preparing the congregation to sing

22:32 - Singing carols with children and families

28:16 - Christmas music in smaller churches

How can we pastor people with polarising opinions on immigration? Can we pray with Catholics? How should we care for those in later life?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Phil Topham (FIEC Executive Director), John Stevens (FIEC National Director), and Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director) discuss stories in the news over the past few weeks and what we can learn from them for church leadership.

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00:00 - FIEC update

06:29 - Immigration and polarising opinions

18:53 - King Charles, the Pope, and Protestantism

28:44 - Prunella Scales and care in later life

Our fund raising campaign at the 2025 Leaders' Conference will be for a specific Bible translation project in Africa.

In this episode of In:Dependence, Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director) is joined by Martin Dixon, the Director for Churches at Wycliffe Bible Translators, to talk about the work of Bible translation across the world and a particular project that we will be collecting donations for at this year's Leaders' Conference.

Please note: We initially understood the £70k target would allow the project to be completed, but now understand that, while it would enable substantial progress, it would not complete the project. We're sorry for any misrepresentation or confusion.

Show notes

• 2025 FIEC Leaders' Conference (booking deadline Friday 31 October) (fiec.org.uk)
• Wycliffe Bible Translators (wycliffe.org.uk)

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00:00 - Introduction

00:42 - Wycliffe Bible Translators and the need for translation

04:12 - Raising funds for Bible translation at the Leaders' Conference

10:00 - How Bible translation leads to church planting and more

There are four million people in the UK who say they are followers of Islam. In our rapidly changing communities, how can we reach out to Muslim people with the gospel?

Muslim people make up 6% of the UK population (as of 2021), which increase to 15% within London.

Reflecting on their experiences in church ministry, Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director), Dan Strange (Director of Crosslands Forum), and Rob Scott (pastor, Asha London), discuss the complexities of engaging with Muslim people and how churches can hold out the hope of the gospel to them.

Show notes

• Sharing the Gospel with a Muslim Neighbour, Robert Scott (uk.10ofthose.com)
• For Their Rock is not as Our Rock: An Evangelical Theology Of Religions, Daniel Strange (ivpbooks.com)

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00:00 - Introduction

04:31 - The growth of the UK Muslim population

08:54 - True faith and false faith

13:32 - Diversity within Islam

18:30 - Making a start in reaching Muslims

22:23 - Touchstone issues for Muslims

26:25 - Exploring more at the FIEC Leaders' Conference

How should we continue to pray for Gaza after the ceasefire? What should we make of persecution of Chinese Christians? How do we encourage humility in leadership?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Phil Topham (FIEC Executive Director), John Stevens (FIEC National Director), and Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director) discuss stories in the news from the past weeks and what we can learn from them for church leadership.

Show notes

• FIEC Leaders' Conference (fiec.org.uk)
• Israeli government approves Gaza ceasefire and hostage deal (bbc.co.uk)
• Trump says 'war is over' in Gaza as he flies to Israel for release of hostages (bbc.co.uk)
• The controversy over the collapsed China spy case explained (bbc.co.uk)
• China arrested 30 Christians. Some fear it's the start of a bigger crackdown (bbc.co.uk)
• French PM backs freezing Macron's pension reform to save government (bbc.co.uk)
• Archie Norman to stay at Marks and Spencer until 2029 (ft.com)

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00:00 - CRIB conference

04:02 - The Everything Conference

06:39 - Israel-Gaza ceasefire

11:22 - Humility in leadership

15:37 - Chinese espionage and persecution

22:35 - Leadership lessons from Emmanuel Macron and Archie Norman

Sharing the good news is a joy and a privilege. How can churches pray and prepare for an extended mission of evangelism?

"How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news" (Isaiah 52:7)!

A Passion for Life exists to help churches reach out to their communities with the gospel by equipping, encouraging, and enabling every Christian in their personal witness. This includes a week of mission organised every four years with resources to help equip local churches - the next being in 2026.

In this episode of In:Dependence, Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director) is joined by A Passion for Life's Mission Director, Nick McQuaker, to talk about the current spiritual scene in the UK, the difference between mission and evangelism, and how churches can make the most of the 2026 mission.

May our churches stand firm with "feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace" (Ephesians 6:15).

Show notes

• The Quiet Revival: Growth in the UK Church (fiec.org.uk)
• J.K. Rowling's God-shaped vaccuum (x.com)
• A Passion for Life (apassionforlife.org.uk)
• Join the mission (apassionforlife.org.uk)

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00:00 - The privilege of sharing the good news

01:42 - The spiritual scene in the UK

08:03 - Church services as an evangelistic moment

11:13 - What are people lacking?

13:23 - Mission or evangelism?

19:03 - Prayer and preparation for mission

21:27 - Resources for churches to train for evangelism

25:38 - Life '26 branding assets

How do we lead our churches in response to evil like the anti-semitic attack in Manchester? How should Independents respond to the new Archbishop of Canterbury? What can church leaders learn from Europe's Ryder Cup victory?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Phil Topham (FIEC Executive Director), John Stevens (FIEC National Director), and Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director) discuss stories in the news over the past weeks and what church leaders can learn from them.

Show notes

• Leaders' Conference 2025 (fiec.org.uk)
• Rising Lights (fiec.org.uk)
• What we know about Manchester synagogue attack (bbc.co.uk)
• The Gospel was preached at Charlie Kirk’s memorial and it should challenge us all (premierchristianity.com)
• Voddie Baucham (1969–2025) on the Resurrection (thegospelcoalition.org)
• Who is Sarah Mullally, the first ever female Archbishop of Canterbury? (news.sky.com)
• Ryder Cup 2025: Team Europe complete historic away win despite Team USA's singles fightback at Bethpage Black (skysports.com)

00:00 - FIEC update

04:45 - Anti-semitic attack in Manchester

13:29 - Charlie Kirk memorial service

14:47 - Voddie Baucham's death

17:10 - Dame Sarah Mullally, the new Archbishop of Canterbury

25:11 - Golf, the Ryder Cup, and team players

How can we lead our churches through division? What needs to be considered before appointing someone to a role? What is it like to dine with the king?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Phil Topham (FIEC Executive Director), John Stevens (FIEC National Director), and Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director) discuss stories in the news over the past weeks about what we can learn from them in church leadership.

Show notes

• Rising Lights (fiec.org.uk)
• Charlie Kirk: Conservative influencer who rallied a youth movement (bbc.co.uk)
• 6 Lies We're Being Fed Right Now, Glen Scrivener (youtu.be)
• Starmer: I would never have appointed Mandelson if I knew then what I know now (news.sky.com)
• What was on the menu and who was on guest list at state banquet? (bbc.co.uk)

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00:00 - FIEC update

10:01 - The death of Charlie Kirk

14:58 - How can church leaders lead through division?

21:00 - The gospel opportunities from Charlie Kirk

23:23 - Peter Mandelson and due diligence

30:01 - Dining with the king

What can Angela Rayner's stamp duty mistake teach church leaders? Does the UK have a free speech problem? What does Daniel Levy's exit tell us about trust?

In this episode, Adrian Reynolds, Phil Topham, and John Stevens discuss stories in the news and how they relate to church leadership.

Show notes

• FIEC Leaders' Conference 2025 (fiec.org.uk)
• In:Progress webinars (fiec.org.uk)
• Journeys 2026 (fiec.org.uk)
• Rising Lights 2026 (fiec.org.uk)
• Reflecting Heaven (fiec.org.uk)
• Key questions left unanswered in Angela Rayner tax row (news.sky.com)
• US accuses UK of 'significant human rights issues' and restricting free speech (news.sky.com)
• Levy exits role as Tottenham executive chairman (bbc.co.uk)

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00:00 - UCCF Forum and Uncover Luke

05:42 - FIEC news

11:07 - Setting the tone amidst bad news

14:22 - Angela Rayner and stamp duty tax

20:44 - Does the UK have a free speech problem?

26:36 - Daniel Levy's exit from Tottenham Hotspur and the importance of trust