In this thought-provoking episode of THE CIRCLE IS podCAST, Rachel True and Mat Auryn welcome the brilliant Benebell Wen—lawyer, occult author, and practitioner of esoteric arts. Best known for Holistic Tarot, The Tao of Craft, and I Ching, the Oracle, Wen shares her deep knowledge of divination, Taoist ritual magick, and the intersections of law and mysticism. The conversation explores the distinction between fortune-telling and divination, the power of long-term inner work in magickal practice, and how a disciplined, scientific approach to magick can enhance results. They dive into the challenges of translating ancient texts, the hidden mystical layers of the I Ching, and the ways Western interpretations have shaped (and often distorted) Eastern metaphysical traditions. Wen discusses her upcoming projects, including an Etteilla-based tarot deck and her translation of the Tao Te Ching from ancient Chinese, shedding light on the shamanistic roots often overlooked in mainstream discourse. The hosts also tackle the role of magick in turbulent times, the necessity of protective and grounding practices, and how embracing a daily spiritual routine can counter learned helplessness. Whether you’re interested in ancient divination systems, practical magic, or navigating the modern world as a spiritual practitioner, this episode is filled with insight, wisdom, and actionable advice for seekers of all backgrounds.

Benebell’s Links:

 Benebell’s Website: https://benebellwen.com/

 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@BenebellWen

 Benebell’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bellwen

Our Links:

Rachel True Website: https://truehearttarot.com

Mat Auryn Website: https://auryn.net

Modern Witch Podcast Network: https://modernwitch.com

Mat’s Omega Retreats: https://www.auryn.net/omega

True Heart Intuitive Tarot, Guidebook And Deck: https://a.co/d/9ZNyRu1

The Psychic Art of Tarot: Opening Your Inner Eye for More Insightful Readings: https://a.co/d/dUBT1bZ

Psychic Witch: A Metaphysical Guide to Meditation, Magick & Manifestation: https://a.co/d/bHelDwU

Mastering Magick: A Course in Spellcasting for the Psychic Witch: https://amzn.to/3VesGal

Pisces Witch: Unlock the Magic of Your Sun Sign: https://a.co/d/cGqcG61