A quick word (and a wry laugh) from Kate and Katherine as they explain the need for an unexpected break in transmission.

The First Time podcast will be back in September, bursting at the seams with fabulous guests and everything from behind the scenes as Katherine's book, The Helpline, heads out into the world.

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