Welcome to Season 11, Episode 5 with us here at Thoth-Hermes Podcast.  Today, Rudolf and Karin re-engage with friend Dean Radin.  An electrical engineer holding a PhD in experimental psychology, Dean has been involved at the forefront of psychical research in the United States.  Dean’s career has spanned Bell Labs, SRI International, and several major universities.  He has served as Chief Scientist at the Institute for Noetic Sciences and authored several critically acclaimed titles on consciousness, Quantum, and… dare we name it… Magic. 

Dean dryly names that “all the really juicy stuff in science starts as the  unobservable”, which is where the FUN of research resides: the rational understanding of the wonderous.  Karin, Rudolf and Dean venture into questions of non-local consciousness, and the possibility of “the brain operating as a quantum object”.  Do certain aspects of our perceptual ability distribute through space and time?

After succinctly outlining Edgar Mitchell’s famed metaphysical rebirth, Dean broadens the possibility of the “Overview Effect”.  He suggests that this is also found within personal anomalous experiences, psychedelic encounters, and other related transformative Wonder moments.  Dean notes that questions of “consciousness” has saturated all major fields of human endeavor at this time, forming a “second” psychedelic and consciousness revolution.  Mainline science’s reliance on the Reductive Materialism worldview is eclipsed by the new challenges of consciousness research. 

Throughout this conversation, Artificial Intelligence- pro or con, but present- is a repeated waypoint for reflection: can it demonstrate the Observer Effect?  In what ways can our very human pioneers harness its capacities to bring us back to knowledge of our own extraordinary capacities?

The flow of dialogue turns towards creativity as both necessity and antinomian, including in natural science.  The authentic occult and paranormal are named as necessarily non-performative to conventional knowledge and endeavors: the deeper truths are far from social media and popular publishing.  Dean suggests that the further knowledge of psychical processes develops, the more likely there may be a return to a true “occult” form of research and knowledge in response to its implications for upending current systems of large scale human control (government, religion, the marketplace).

During the course of this conversation, Dean references the annual Linda G. O’Bryant noetic sciences research prize, and we are pleased to include that link: https://noetic.org/prize/

Dean’s first conversation on Thoth-Hermes occurred in the summer of 2020, Season 5 Episode 2, and is available here: https://thothermes.com/episodes/season-5-episode-2-science-meets-magic-dean-radin/