Nate and Gail are joined by Jessica Goforth, one of the hosts of the podcast Leaving the Village and survivor of Bill Gothard's ATI and IBLP cult. She provides a look behind the scenes into the brainwashing and abuse that goes on in this Evangelical Christian cult.

•Jessica’s podcast: https://dauntless.fm/podcast/leavingthevillage

•Video of ATI student choir: https://youtu.be/LUSgPdX7W78

•Image from large ATI/IBLP conference: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlKO91yf9AQAhYlPHD3OcHsiPW6XbQ

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