Welcome to TAB Storytellers' 10th episode! Join Jen and Abi as they interview Beth Balliro, a professor and the chair of the art education department at the Massachusetts College of Art and Design. Together, they explore the perception of the TAB approach among art educators, the purpose and structure of preservice teacher education programs, and how TAB can combat the "crisis of small-mindedness" that our students currently face as they practice the "having of ideas".

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Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y9pMesyXuVwnPrFEQsK7YARJQJ-HF1jN6hkq2vsJChU/edit?usp=sharing. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at [email protected].