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S1E17 | Why Most Aviation MGAs Fail...And How This Leader Rebuilt One Into a Market Force - feat. John Songin, President & CUO, Worklink Specialty
If You Run an MGA, This Might Be the Most Important Interview You Watch This Year
In this episode of The Age of the MGA Podcast, we sit down with John Songin, President & CUO of Worldlink Specialty, the operator behind one of the most interesting and misunderstood niches in the specialty program world: Aviation MGAs.
Most people see aviation underwriting as “too small,” “too technical,” or “too risky.”
But they’re wrong.
Behind the scenes, this MGA is quietly rebuilding a distressed program… tightening underwriting discipline… launching niche-within-niche E&O products… innovating in drones and agricultural UAS… and re-writing the blueprint for how specialty MGAs scale profitably.
This episode is a masterclass in MGA growth, underwriting excellence, distribution strategy, product innovation, and the future of aviation insurance.
If you’re a founder, operator, underwriter, broker, investor, or carrier partner — this episode will change the way you think about MGA growth.
What You’ll Learn:
✔ How an operator rebuilds a struggling MGA
✔ Why underwriting excellence is the #1 competitive advantage in specialty programs
✔ How drones & UAS are transforming agriculture and aviation risk
✔ What MGAs must fix before chasing submissions or capacity
✔ Why broker education is the real bottleneck in distribution
✔ How niche E&O products can become a secret growth engine
✔ The truth about AI, underwriting judgement, and the future of talent
This is the kind of episode founders replay, take notes on, and send to their partners.
👉 Watch the full interview now and subscribe for more category-defining MGA stories.
🔗 Stay Connected & Follow the Movement:
🎧 Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube
📲 Follow the Age of the MGA on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/age-of-the-mga/
🧠 Connect with the Hosts:
Doug Ver Mulm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasvermulm/
Dylan Brand: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanbrand/
Peter Tilbrook: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-tilbrook-50832336/
🧠 Connect with our special Guest at Rainbow:
John Songin, President & Chief Underwriting Officer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-a-songin/
Website: http://www.worldlinkspecialty.com/
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🌀 Sponsored by Typhon Risk — The MGA’s Strategic Growth Partner
Most MGAs don’t fail because of ambition—they fail because of broken back-end operations.
Typhon Risk solves that.
From vendor selection and management to claims, distribution, and underwriting operations...Typhon Risk helps MGAs scale smarter, faster, and leaner.
🔹 Learn more: https://www.typhonrisk.com
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By Peter TilbrookIf You Run an MGA, This Might Be the Most Important Interview You Watch This Year
In this episode of The Age of the MGA Podcast, we sit down with John Songin, President & CUO of Worldlink Specialty, the operator behind one of the most interesting and misunderstood niches in the specialty program world: Aviation MGAs.
Most people see aviation underwriting as “too small,” “too technical,” or “too risky.”
But they’re wrong.
Behind the scenes, this MGA is quietly rebuilding a distressed program… tightening underwriting discipline… launching niche-within-niche E&O products… innovating in drones and agricultural UAS… and re-writing the blueprint for how specialty MGAs scale profitably.
This episode is a masterclass in MGA growth, underwriting excellence, distribution strategy, product innovation, and the future of aviation insurance.
If you’re a founder, operator, underwriter, broker, investor, or carrier partner — this episode will change the way you think about MGA growth.
What You’ll Learn:
✔ How an operator rebuilds a struggling MGA
✔ Why underwriting excellence is the #1 competitive advantage in specialty programs
✔ How drones & UAS are transforming agriculture and aviation risk
✔ What MGAs must fix before chasing submissions or capacity
✔ Why broker education is the real bottleneck in distribution
✔ How niche E&O products can become a secret growth engine
✔ The truth about AI, underwriting judgement, and the future of talent
This is the kind of episode founders replay, take notes on, and send to their partners.
👉 Watch the full interview now and subscribe for more category-defining MGA stories.
🔗 Stay Connected & Follow the Movement:
🎧 Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube
📲 Follow the Age of the MGA on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/age-of-the-mga/
🧠 Connect with the Hosts:
Doug Ver Mulm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasvermulm/
Dylan Brand: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanbrand/
Peter Tilbrook: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-tilbrook-50832336/
🧠 Connect with our special Guest at Rainbow:
John Songin, President & Chief Underwriting Officer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-a-songin/
Website: http://www.worldlinkspecialty.com/
____________
🌀 Sponsored by Typhon Risk — The MGA’s Strategic Growth Partner
Most MGAs don’t fail because of ambition—they fail because of broken back-end operations.
Typhon Risk solves that.
From vendor selection and management to claims, distribution, and underwriting operations...Typhon Risk helps MGAs scale smarter, faster, and leaner.
🔹 Learn more: https://www.typhonrisk.com
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