Paula’s great friend, Rules pal, and fellow Social Worker, Erin joins Paula to talk about their respective journeys to finding what works with men. Paula and Erin recall their first meeting, working together, and how they developed their special bond. Both relive part of their past pains and shames that brought each to a totally new place personally and romantically. They also recall their time together in the desert sun sweating it out to ensure the right scores on Paula’s Consumer vs. Buyer Relationship Test! Paula recounts how Erin persevered through a tough period of no-contact with her current partner and Erin recalls for Paula how years ago she was only dreaming that she could help women in the way she does now.