Episode 3 is an interview with game and puzzle designers Juliana Moreno Patel and Ariel Rubin, the Wild Optimists. This brilliant duo designed the world’s first Escape Room in a Box which is released worldwide by Mattel.

Juliana and Ariel met, founded their company, and created their first product all while pregnant, which should give you a good idea of their intense passion.

They are known for their thoughtful designs in immersive gaming and continue to push the envelope when it comes to creating new types of game design.

Show Notes

Hosted by David Spira & Peih-Gee Law

Produced by Lisa Spira

Music by Ryan Elder

Logo by Janine Pracht