We have a great show for you this week. This episode features two of Erik's favorite magicians and Nick Locapo! The main event is a conversation with Ben Young, who Erik has known since he first got into magic. Ben talks about touring military bases, his behind the scenes on Fool Us, working on The Mac King Show, and his transition into a family entertainer. Kevin Bethea, one of Erik's favorite close up magicians, joins the show for Desert Island Magic Books. Nick Locapo joins via discord to discuss the featured download of the week from Gaeton Bloom.