Featuring "The 5th Rider" with Intro. written by Rob.  This piece is dense with meaning.  You may have to listen twice.
Sarah n Phil discuss the theme for their November show "Never Would I Ever." As always this leads them down the rabbit hole where they discover some pretty cool ideas about marriage and the reclamation of words.  Phil tells the story of how he bought a ring once.
They also stumble upon the idea of 'small art' and decide Own It would not be better if they packed a stadium and had a show. In fact they would probably loose the magic.