Rob Cole is a BJJ black belt, Globetrotters instructor, and an advocate and practitioner of the application of ecological dynamics in Jiu Jitsu. He sits down with Pat for this super sized episode where they talk the application of those dynamics, its impact in students learning, teaching and more.

The music on Thanks for Rolling is performed by Future Vision/FineTune Music and is licensed through Adobe Stock with code: ASLC-1936E775-D86B800A95