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S2 E22 | (Listener Question) When You're Innocent and She Doesn't Believe You
A listener wrote in with a question a lot of men in recovery are sitting with. He's about a year past discovery, working on his integrity, and honest enough to admit he still shades the truth sometimes in the moment. His question: what do you do when your partner accuses you of something you genuinely did not do, and how do you say no without getting defensive or setting off another trigger?
Roy takes that question apart with care. He explains why trying to win the moment is the wrong goal, even when you're innocent, and why the very skill of being convincing is the same skill that built the secret basement and wore down your partner's ability to trust her own read on reality. Then he gets practical: how to answer the fear underneath the question, how to keep your no short and stay in the discomfort, and what proactive transparency asks of you over the long haul.
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome and how to listen
1:00 The listener's question
3:10 Why I won't give you a strategy
4:40 The secret basement and the two realities at home
6:10 Why your honest "no" can't be trusted yet
9:10 A word about the Joy Recovery Academy
10:25 Trauma reactivity vs. genuine intuition
12:50 The suspicions you can't disprove
15:10 DARVO and the integrity-abuse road to avoid
18:05 What to do, part 1: answer the fear underneath the question
19:35 Part 2: keep your "no" short, then stay in it
21:00 Part 3: proactive transparency, the long game
22:05 Why integrity is the real answer
23:10 On trust, time, and her timeline
26:00 One thing to carry with you
Joy Recovery is an education space for men recovering from integrity abuse through deceptive sexuality, and for betrayed partners facing the aftermath. Explore live teaching, the on-demand library, and the tools we use with private clients inside the Joy Recovery Academy. Start with a 7-day free trial at https://www.joy-recovery.com
Have a question for the show? Submit it through our website and we may address it on a future episode. We will not share your name.
Joy Recovery is Minwalla Model Informed and is not certified by, affiliated with, or endorsed by Dr. Omar Minwalla. This podcast is educational and is not therapy or a substitute for care from a licensed clinician.
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A listener wrote in with a question a lot of men in recovery are sitting with. He's about a year past discovery, working on his integrity, and honest enough to admit he still shades the truth sometimes in the moment. His question: what do you do when your partner accuses you of something you genuinely did not do, and how do you say no without getting defensive or setting off another trigger?
Roy takes that question apart with care. He explains why trying to win the moment is the wrong goal, even when you're innocent, and why the very skill of being convincing is the same skill that built the secret basement and wore down your partner's ability to trust her own read on reality. Then he gets practical: how to answer the fear underneath the question, how to keep your no short and stay in the discomfort, and what proactive transparency asks of you over the long haul.
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome and how to listen
1:00 The listener's question
3:10 Why I won't give you a strategy
4:40 The secret basement and the two realities at home
6:10 Why your honest "no" can't be trusted yet
9:10 A word about the Joy Recovery Academy
10:25 Trauma reactivity vs. genuine intuition
12:50 The suspicions you can't disprove
15:10 DARVO and the integrity-abuse road to avoid
18:05 What to do, part 1: answer the fear underneath the question
19:35 Part 2: keep your "no" short, then stay in it
21:00 Part 3: proactive transparency, the long game
22:05 Why integrity is the real answer
23:10 On trust, time, and her timeline
26:00 One thing to carry with you
Joy Recovery is an education space for men recovering from integrity abuse through deceptive sexuality, and for betrayed partners facing the aftermath. Explore live teaching, the on-demand library, and the tools we use with private clients inside the Joy Recovery Academy. Start with a 7-day free trial at https://www.joy-recovery.com
Have a question for the show? Submit it through our website and we may address it on a future episode. We will not share your name.
Joy Recovery is Minwalla Model Informed and is not certified by, affiliated with, or endorsed by Dr. Omar Minwalla. This podcast is educational and is not therapy or a substitute for care from a licensed clinician.