We talk about the men being arrested at Starbucks, whether Starbucks can really do unconcious bias training in half a day and what Tania would tell Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz if she had the chance. We grapple with what really needs to happen to change the script on racism. Tania got a response to her email from reps at the Lincoln Museum and it isn't good. Paul has a realization that is as he says, "as clear as the white on my face", grows weary and sings a bit of a song. We announce the next book for our "No Judgement Book Club" and we tease a big announcement that we'll be sharing in a few weeks!