Joining Ben on the pod are legends from both clubs in the form of Louis Saha and Lloyd Owusu. 

One of the main reasons for Brentford's success has been the goals scored by Ollie Watkins, but he wasn't always such a confident striker. Ben hears from his former boss at Exeter City, Paul Tisdale, who tells Ben how a simple bit of advice helped turn him from a struggler in their second team, into the Championship's top scorer.

And finally, to preview the playoff final itself is Jobi McAnuff, who also talks about the new man on the training ground at Leyton Orient, one Yaya Toure.